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Buffyversefantic · Transforumer Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Posts: 2869

Joss Explains In Two Video Interviews Buffy & BTVS And Angel & ATS.These interviews were conducted last year.

http://www.scifitv.com.au/Blog/2011/04/joss-whedon-explains-buffy-the-vampire-slayer/

Jean-Vic · Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:06 pm Post subject:

I don't believe it. He actually admitted he doesn't know how to write Angel. We've always known he couldn't. Greenwalt seems to be the one who "got" Angel. It's not Joss fault', but it explains why he is less hands on.

Angel is a character he struggles to comprehend, and he think he struggles to comprehend why people are so fond of him. I've never agreed with JW saying that Spike is more evolved because Angel, Spike, Buffy, Xander, Jonathan etc are all different creatures, different species on different paths and I don't think comparisons can be made of that nature. Yes, I've always enjoyed a bit of fun in the whole "Who'd win a fight?" discussions, but making overarching critiques of who a person/character is can't really be done because evolved for one may be primitive for another, if that makes sense. I mean, everyone is different. Every day we, like fictional characters, face challenges. What I find easy others will struggle with, so when they overcome that it is not my place to belittle it. Their evolution is different to mine and no one is more evolved than anyone else, IMO, because we are all individuals on different roads.

Wow, rant, but that thought just came to me when he said that he doesn't understand who Angel is. Made me wonder why he makes overarching statements about him in comparison to others.

Interesting interview.
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Lostsoul666 · Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:44 pm Post subject:

Just proves more and more that Angel was more Greenwalt's show then Joss's.
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JSPoole · Slayer Joined: 07 Nov 2009 Posts: 83

glad Im not the only one here who thought ''huh?'' seeing this

I always suspected Joss was not very involved in angel, this kinda confirms it

which makes it more frustraiting he demanded it back when he didnt seem to care much about it or get it

Darkholme · Red Shirt Joined: 10 Apr 2011 Posts: 19

This helped me understand why season 8 wrote Angel so badly.

Jean-Vic · Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:39 am Post subject:

Angel keeps messing up because Joss only sees him as a hero when he makes a mistake and then tries to atone, although Angelus could be the only motivation he'd need there. Hence, no need for Twilight.

The message I got from the early years of Angel was not that Angel was a hero because he failed and atoned. That was his initial motivation, yes, but he was a hero because he helped people because they needed help. No reward. No big win. Just helping for the sake of helping because people don't deserve to suffer. How Joss can't understand that aspect of his character, I don't know. This is just a lowly fan saying this.
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