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[itsame]

I think Connor's gonna make it. If you look, after the panel with the flash of white light, his wounds are gone.

Connor's totally my favorite, so I hope he doesn't get killed off.

[Spacediva70]

[Veiriti]

[Double Dutchess]

[Shade of Pale]

I enjoyed the issue, although I'm a little concerned about poor Connor. I expect he'll be OK, but still, poor Connor. I like that we are going to find out much more about what Connor physically is, which will hopefully be a good set up to the next story. I quite liked the conversation between Mr Polyphemus, Laura and Spike, although I was a little puzzled that Spike would need to fill a form in. A humorous touch, a plot point, or both. I'm hoping they'll all remember Dez by the end of #38.

All in all, we're speeding towards a conclusion. As I'm really looking forward to the new arc, I don't really mind the pace. Some things, like Spike writing the prophecies I'm kind of glad that we're getting through quickly. I'm feeling much more at ease with the characterization in the last couple of issues, which is a nice place to be. Looking forward to #38.


Welcome, itsame.

[angeliclestat]

Ok...this comic is called Angel isn't it...Spike is being written by Brian Lynch and is coming out next month right?Then why is Angel treated like a supporting character in his own comic YET AGAIN!!!

Seriously-I was really looking forward to this issue...promised that Angel was going to take more of an active role.But yet again it's the Spike show-did we really need 9 pages of the issue dedicated to the soul thing?

Very dissapointing.
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[Buffyversefantic]

I didn't really have time to get into more details about the issue yesterday

Again,it was good and it does feel like we're heading to a climax now both in the main story and the Eddie Hope back up.

We learn what the deal is with Spike's soul and his recent behavior.He hasn't lost his soul,it's just sick basically.

Laura:"What feelings do you associate with the following words."Ice cream,Blood,Sunset,Bunnies....

Spike:This is ridiculous.Yes,No,Ow Burn-y,and who bloody cares.I'm more of a cat person.How is this going to help?

Laura holding a book:These questions help us establish the root of the problem,whether it's mystical,magical.or inter-dimensional origin.

Mr. Polyphemus:Or quantum

Spike:Look,isn't there,like,I don't know,some kind of stick I can pee on?It turns blue,Voila---Soul.

Laura:Not really.Souls are tricky;The don't actually exist in the physical sense.

Spike:Except...Oh,never mind.

Mr. Polyphemus scanning pages from the book Laura is holding:BZZZT THAT'S interesting...

Spike:What?What is it?Did you find something?

Mr. Polyphemus:You sired your own mother?

Spike with his hand to his head:It's complicated.Also?Thanks so much for announcing my private-business to the room.

Mr. Polyphemus:His answers are inconclusive.

Laura:Having a soul doesn't always equal goodness.We've seen cases...

Mr. Polyphemus:A Kriasteum Darkness Spell?Or a Shroud Of Infinite Drabors?Either one could affect his judgment.

Laura:Too volatile.And the Shroud has a tendency to set hair on fire.

Mr. Polyphemus:A RELINQUIA VOSTERIUM casting?

Laura:Skin turns GREEN.We'd notice that.Let's try cross-referencing....

Spike:I hate to interrupt,seeing how it's my soul we're talking about here,But really people...put me out of my MISERY,and get a bloody room already!You're like a pair of married GRANNIES.

Laura:That's ridiculous.The relationship Mr. Polyphemus and I have is STRICTLY Professional.

Mr. Polyphemus:BIP! I have nothing but the utmost respect for Miss Weathermill.

Laura:Thank You,Mr. Polyphemus

Mr. Polyphemus:Even if there WERE feelings between us,I'm a MONASTERENSEE MAGNASERM.Miss Weathermill is HUMAN.

Spike:And I'm a VAMPIRE with a soul.

Laura:Because of BU....

Spike cuts her off(she was about to say Buffy):...BUT,But,But.....we're not going to use any names,are we?My point is,you don't need to be bleeding Legos to make the "O" face.

Laura:Thus could be a REACTION to our questions.The subject may be trying to create a diversion as a way of impeding....

Spike:No,denial isn't just a river.It's the GHOST in the room,Laura.You were probably thinking about his rock hard smoothness when we...

Laura holds up her finger cutting Spike off:...YES!

Mr. Polyphemus:What is it,Laura?

Laurah who has figured it out:Spike...When Wolfram & Hart brought you back,you were a GHOST,Yes?

Spike:I prefer,"Corporeally-Challenged."A temporary side effect.And I don't want to talk about THAT,either.

Laura:Polyphemus,isn't there a PARASITE that affects those who are,technically shifting between realms?That literally latches onto souls?

Mr. Polyphemus:The ARCADIA SUM.It's very rare and very old.They can lie dormant for years,waiting for a magical catalyst to become active.

Spike:But that was AGES ago.

Laura:The conditions and use of magic in your resurrection,combined with the recent time shifts and the reappearance of some ancient magicks...

Spike:So it was that little Arcadia beastie that made me have sex with vampires and try to create my own Prophecies?

Mr. Polyphemus:Affecting a victim's moral center is one of the symptoms.

Spike:But it's there?My soul is there?

Laura:The Soul Eater was probably reading your soul as "Corrupt" and therefore invisible.

Mr. Polyphemus:There are several incantations capable of killing an Arcadia Sum.Once completed,your soul should be good as new.

Spike:Well,What are we waiting for?

Laura pulling out a clipboard and a pen:First,I'm going to need you to fill out these forms.

Spike annoyed:Bugger.

Also on the Connor front,things look bad.Connor is sacrificed to the sisterhood who he's been working with due to him being the spawn of two vampires.According to them,Connor hasn't even reached his true potential power yet.He's stabbed several times so they can drain him of his power and fight in his name.

I don't think Connor is dead though.The last page of the story has Connor's body bathed in a white light.

Things come to a head in the Eddie Hope backup as Angel,Spike,Illyria and Kate try to save Gunn.

There are references to Spike's recent adventure with Eddie in stopping Tansy Fry and the mini Hellmouths that was just completed in last week's Spike:The Devil You Know #4.The story ends in a cliffhanger showdown between Angel and Eddie.

Looking forward to the wrap up of Bill Willingham's run.

ETA

About Connor,I just looked again and when Connor is bathed in the white light,his stab wounds disappear.

[dorotea]

I am a cat person and lets just leave it at that.


The good

The issue was not that bad - I actually loved all the banter between Spike , the floating demon-encyclopedia and Laura.

The not so good

The opening fistfight scenes felt totally gratuitous though. There was absolutely no reason for Angel to hit Spike , and I cringed at the rushed and pointless dialog in that section. It felt like they needed 'some' action and whats the best way to get it than to have the two dudes hit each other.

I also absolutely not buying this 'new' Illyria. She feels like paler shade of herself from the Hell-A. What is mind boggling about her is not that she is having feelings - supposedly - but that she is suddenly lost her cool and sharpness again.

And the almost obligatory cliffhanger with Kenny eh Connor 'killed' again. Please.

The ugly

Art

[angeliclestat]

[Double Dutchess]

Thanks for typing out that whole 'soul dialogue', Buffyversefantic! Sounds like a nice save from the new writing team.

Also good to hear that Connor is probably not going to die after all. This could be the moment for him to achieve the full potential of his powers.

[angeliclestat]

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[angeliclestat]