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cashel
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i dug it. a wasn't lost and i had been with previous issues. this was straightforward and i appreciated it for a change. no major continuity glitches and i think andy schmidt will be a great addition to the team. i truly feel his heart is into it.
now, what is the real correct reading order of transformers? i know the chronology in the back of continuum was incorrect as many of the spotlights do not occur before infiltration but after. soundwave alone ends in the year 2007 i believe. does anyone have the appropriate listing. i wouldn't mind buying the back issues and putting them into hardcover if i could just figure out where all the damned spotlights go.
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Praul
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| cashel wrote: | i dug it. a wasn't lost and i had been with previous issues. this was straightforward and i appreciated it for a change. no major continuity glitches and i think andy schmidt will be a great addition to the team. i truly feel his heart is into it.
now, what is the real correct reading order of transformers? i know the chronology in the back of continuum was incorrect as many of the spotlights do not occur before infiltration but after. soundwave alone ends in the year 2007 i believe. does anyone have the appropriate listing. i wouldn't mind buying the back issues and putting them into hardcover if i could just figure out where all the damned spotlights go. |
to be fair it's not far off the correct reading order. The example you've used of Soundwave - I guess they've taken the earlier year that the comic takes place in and put that there. I would think they'd hardly break it up into - (this is obviously not accurate, but for demonstration purposes) Soundwave pages 1-15 before Infiltration, 16-21 pre escalation, 22- post revelation.
It's a bit like Lost - you can jump between flashbacks to fill in info, and they've just stuck it where they believe it should be read.
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| sol magnus wrote: | | Kirjava wrote: | My dad likes Transformers...? This is news to me, but joyous news at that! Finally we can bond over cars that turn into robots instead of football!
...I'm going to be horribly disappointed next time I go see my parents, aren't I? |
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congrats!!
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Kirjava
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Don't say stuff like that Sol  I'm too young to be teaching someone else how to be a real person!
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Bludgeon
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| Praul wrote: | | to be fair it's not far off the correct reading order. The example you've used of Soundwave - I guess they've taken the earlier year that the comic takes place in and put that there. I would think they'd hardly break it up into - (this is obviously not accurate, but for demonstration purposes) Soundwave pages 1-15 before Infiltration, 16-21 pre escalation, 22- post revelation. |
I don't have my books in front of me, but Spot Soundwave (last page) definitely happens before devastation (not past revelation).
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Matrix
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| sol magnus wrote: | | Matrix wrote: | | To quote G2, 'These aren't your Father's Autobots'. |
Well, mostly. They've been gradually turning back into your father's Autobots for a while now (cause your dad is the target audience, anyway). |
Have they? Prowl's mind-controlling Kup and Hot Rod's challenging Prime's leadership, to the annoyance of some parts of the fanbase.
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Praul
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| Bludgeon wrote: | | Praul wrote: | | to be fair it's not far off the correct reading order. The example you've used of Soundwave - I guess they've taken the earlier year that the comic takes place in and put that there. I would think they'd hardly break it up into - (this is obviously not accurate, but for demonstration purposes) Soundwave pages 1-15 before Infiltration, 16-21 pre escalation, 22- post revelation. |
I don't have my books in front of me, but Spot Soundwave (last page) definitely happens before devastation (not past revelation). |
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| Praul wrote: | | Bludgeon wrote: | | Praul wrote: | | to be fair it's not far off the correct reading order. The example you've used of Soundwave - I guess they've taken the earlier year that the comic takes place in and put that there. I would think they'd hardly break it up into - (this is obviously not accurate, but for demonstration purposes) Soundwave pages 1-15 before Infiltration, 16-21 pre escalation, 22- post revelation. |
I don't have my books in front of me, but Spot Soundwave (last page) definitely happens before devastation (not past revelation). |
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GWolfV2
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All of Soundwave, bar the last page, takes place in the eighties.
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Praul
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| Bludgeon wrote: | | Praul wrote: | | Bludgeon wrote: | | Praul wrote: | | to be fair it's not far off the correct reading order. The example you've used of Soundwave - I guess they've taken the earlier year that the comic takes place in and put that there. I would think they'd hardly break it up into - (this is obviously not accurate, but for demonstration purposes) Soundwave pages 1-15 before Infiltration, 16-21 pre escalation, 22- post revelation. |
I don't have my books in front of me, but Spot Soundwave (last page) definitely happens before devastation (not past revelation). |
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| GWolfV2 wrote: | | All of Soundwave, bar the last page, takes place in the eighties. |
Perhaps I should have just said, "they're hardly going to break it up into - spotlight:example pages 1-15 before Infiltration, 16-21 pre escalation, 22- post revelation, for example." to remove confusion...to clear things up, I don't think SL:Soundwave breaks up into those, I was just putting arbitrary example breaks to show how silly it would be to jump back and forth on that reading order on the continuum reading order.
The breaks that they do use, for the AHM Coda series, are fine and make sense (ie where there are two separate stories by different authors featuring different characters in a different time frame in the one physical issue) but if you have something like SLs Soundwave, Shockwave or Optimus Prime, where there are pages that feature flashbacks, I don't think that has to be explicit in a reading order....that's when the author has chosen for the reader to have those flashbacks (or forwards) to be revealed to them. Just like Lost.
Although I think everything in life is a bit like Lost.
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sol magnus
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| Matrix wrote: | | sol magnus wrote: | | Matrix wrote: | | To quote G2, 'These aren't your Father's Autobots'. |
Well, mostly. They've been gradually turning back into your father's Autobots for a while now (cause your dad is the target audience, anyway). |
Have they? Prowl's mind-controlling Kup and Hot Rod's challenging Prime's leadership, to the annoyance of some parts of the fanbase. |
Yeah...but it's GEWUNNification with an edge. They are still taking on more aspects of their childhood buddy age selves with a twist. At least, that's my read on it.
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GWolfV2
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Prowl's a mind raping ammoral guy and people are saying you suck Prime. Sorry, but outside the AHMs , they're still not the same guys of yesteryear. Unless you're basing it on Prime actually giving a crap now
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sol magnus
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| GWolfV2 wrote: | | Prowl's a mind raping ammoral guy and people are saying you suck Prime. Sorry, but outside the AHMs , they're still not the same guys of yesteryear. Unless you're basing it on Prime actually giving a crap now |
Quiet you. You weren't even around for 'yesteryear'.
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Denton J. Tipton
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| DecepticonsRule wrote: | And I think you're looking for a conspiracy on this sellout of the issue. It's very possible IDW knew it would sell out because check this:
Solicitations come out three months ahead of the release. Pre-orders for the issue are submitted from my shop at the beginning of October for a November release. So IDW gets the pre-orders and orders a first print run to match those pre-orders and they guestimate some overage. So let's say the pre-orders are 12,000 and they print overage of 3000 for a first print run of 15000.
That print run was already in process and books were being shipped to Diamond for distribution when the big hype (USA TODAY articles, interviews) started rolling out in early November.
So what could have happened is the promotion could have driven up interest and people went and placed more orders after the first print run was shipped to Diamond. So now there are orders for 16,000 copies and Diamond only has 15,000. So on the first day Diamond ships all copies and the issue sells out for the distributor. When they say sell out, that's what they mean, from the distributor, not from the local shops.
So with IDW already knowing there was increased demand they were already planning to print a 2nd run. |
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GWolfV2
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| sol magnus wrote: | | GWolfV2 wrote: | | Prowl's a mind raping ammoral guy and people are saying you suck Prime. Sorry, but outside the AHMs , they're still not the same guys of yesteryear. Unless you're basing it on Prime actually giving a crap now |
Quiet you. You weren't even around for 'yesteryear'. |
I did some back peddling a few years back. Which is why I kow Impactor sucks
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