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DanielW Transforumer

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Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:30 am Post subject: |
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This section needs someone with Moderator powers....
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Liebkraft Forum Zombie

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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 2:12 am Post subject: |
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Thanks D.M for the backup... concerning the crew my hopes heavily lie on IDW, in my opinion there could be hell of a lot explaining done with Countdown! As stated in other threads, the plan is to kind of 'pass the torch' from Movie-TNG to JJ-TOS, so why not also do some torch-passing between Early Voyages and JJ-TOS? These Marvel-stories were really really good and since IDW reprints them I here again strongly suggest to do new EV-stories and let them conclude in Countdown, which could (and in my opinion should) be a meeting between EV, TNG and JJ-TOS
And by the way: let go of this 'it could be another timeline'. That's sooo easy, like saying 'oh, it's the fault of a wizard'.
I'm fully aware that there are contradictions in the Canon itself, but most time there are either not really that bad or sometimes not even recognizeable. But in JJ-TOS we're talking about open violations of the canon at full intent (okay, now that was the lawyer in me speaking... ) _________________ 'Play with friends, be a Hero!'
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|D.M| I'm kind of a big deal

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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 4:34 am Post subject: |
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| Liebkraft wrote: |
And by the way: let go of this 'it could be another timeline'. That's sooo easy, like saying 'oh, it's the fault of a wizard'.
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A.k.a a parallel universe. Which would be quite acceptable.  _________________
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Duo Maxwell Transforumer
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Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2008 8:44 am Post subject: |
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| Liebkraft wrote: | | And by the way: let go of this 'it could be another timeline'. That's sooo easy |
It also happens to be the most logical explanation for any extreme changes they may decide to make. Since Nero is apparently from the 24th Century and time travel is definitely involved, a splinter timeline makes sense. It allows the creators to honour the canon while not being restricted in what they would want to do. _________________ The preceding post is OK to print. |
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Liebkraft Forum Zombie

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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:47 am Post subject: |
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again, sounds a bit easy to me, but I'll wait until I've seen the movie, will probably be the best thin to do...
by the way, on this site you can check out all the ships and vehicles that the new movie will feature:
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/schematics/stxi_ships.htm
especially a good shot at the hoverbike from the trailer. Does anyone know if the policeman is human or some kind of robocop? _________________ 'Play with friends, be a Hero!'
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Liebkraft Forum Zombie

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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:00 am Post subject: |
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okay, seems there actually is an explanation for the changes in design and everything made in the move and you guys were right:
http://www.trektoday.com/news/131208_01.shtml
there'll be some kind of parallel timeframe, like in Myriad Universes and with that, even it's a very 'easy' explanation, I'm satisfied since the post-Nemesis universe will be left alone. I even remember now that there was some talk about parallal timeframes at the very beginning of the production, also some that mentioned a 'bad-ass' warship version of the Enterprise, sadly that it seems that this one won't be seen in Star Trek XI, would have been kind of interesting. _________________ 'Play with friends, be a Hero!'
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Ro-Dan Transforumer

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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:27 am Post subject: |
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Very cool. I was waiting for Ex Astris to update their info with Abrams' Trek film.
| Liebkraft wrote: | | Does anyone know if the policeman is human or some kind of robocop? | I believe Star Trek screenwriter Bob Orci stated in an interview at Trekmovie.com that he/it could be interpreted either way. However, he feels that the policeman being human falls more in line with Roddenberry's view of the future. So, I guess I'd go with HUMAN.
| Liebkraft wrote: | okay, seems there actually is an explanation for the changes in design and everything made in the move and you guys were right:
http://www.trektoday.com/news/131208_01.shtml
there'll be some kind of parallel timeframe, like in Myriad Universes and with that, even it's a very 'easy' explanation, I'm satisfied | Me too. It'll be a fresh start for the new/old crew, while still being a part of canon. It's like getting the best of both worlds. _________________
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Liebkraft Forum Zombie

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Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:16 am Post subject: |
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yep, I agree with you _________________ 'Play with friends, be a Hero!'
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|D.M| I'm kind of a big deal

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Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:54 am Post subject: |
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| Liebkraft wrote: | okay, seems there actually is an explanation for the changes in design and everything made in the move and you guys were right:
http://www.trektoday.com/news/131208_01.shtml
there'll be some kind of parallel timeframe, like in Myriad Universes and with that, even it's a very 'easy' explanation, I'm satisfied since the post-Nemesis universe will be left alone. I even remember now that there was some talk about parallal timeframes at the very beginning of the production, also some that mentioned a 'bad-ass' warship version of the Enterprise, sadly that it seems that this one won't be seen in Star Trek XI, would have been kind of interesting. |
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Liebkraft Forum Zombie

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Duo Maxwell Transforumer
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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Trekweb has a side-view picture of the Enterprise toy.
The only thing I really don't like are the nacelles, while the only things which still look off are the saucer/neck, which are just a bit too far back. In the picture, you can see the deflector dish comes out to almost the midpoint of the saucer, whereas the original configuration had the dish extend to the point where the saucer began to curve, roughly one quarter of its diameter.
The curve on the secondary hull is too pronounced. The most it should really have to look right is from the section from where the curvature begins to the aft portion of the nacelle pylons.
If the saucer/neck was moved forward a bit more and the nacelles (not including the pylons) were moved forward a corresponding amount, it would greatly improve the look of the ship. Of course, it's moot now as the ship will look as it does now in the final product.
On a slightly different note, the floor map of the bridge playset brings up a question. Judging by the configuration of bridge stations, it looks like there are at least two turbolifts on the bridge, which keeps with how the bridge was presented in the previous movies. However, on the playset, only one of the sections indicates a turbolift. While the single turbolift configuration fits with the series version of the bridge, it is certainly odd that one of the doors apparently serves no function. Of course, it could be a manufacturing error which omitted the "slice" of turbolift. _________________ The preceding post is OK to print. |
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Ro-Dan Transforumer

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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:55 am Post subject: |
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As stated in the message thread below those pics at Trekweb, that side-view of the Enterprise toy is not the finalized version. Those pics were originally posted at Wizardworld.com but taken down at the request of Playmates. _________________
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Liebkraft Forum Zombie

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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 6:06 am Post subject: |
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doesn't matter anyway since this new Enterprise will be set in the JJ-Verse, an alternate timeline.... _________________ 'Play with friends, be a Hero!'
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Ro-Dan Transforumer

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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:59 am Post subject: |
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An alternate timeline that stemmed from the original timeline.  _________________
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Duo Maxwell Transforumer
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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Which only leaves Enterprise alone, everything from the original Star Trek through Nemesis is invalid in the neo-Star Trek timeline.
| Liebkraft wrote: | | doesn't matter anyway since this new Enterprise will be set in the JJ-Verse, an alternate timeline.... |
Opinions are all about personal aesthetic preferences which, I believe, people are still allowed to express. While that toy may not be the final production version, which might only mean the labels it sports will be different, the overall shape of the ship should be accurate as they would have gotten accurate diagrams to work off of in order to produce the toy. _________________ The preceding post is OK to print. |
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