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Ro-Dan
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YES!!!!!!!

Finally official word. My favorite comic book company (IDW, of course) is going to be publishing G.I.-freakin'-Joe! Star Trek, Transformers, aaaaand now G.I. Joe published under one banner.

Thank you Chris Ryall and IDW Publishing. You people are all amazing!
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ill support all your JOE books IF and ONLY if there is at least one book that continues the continuity that we all know and love

no continuity continuer and Im out completely

not mad just dont have it in me to start all over at the beginning again

wish IDW the best of luck though whatever happends I just hope Im there with ya
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seeing IDW has this license now has got me curious. I read a little from the Marvel days and the early Devil's Due, but never really stuck with it.

I notice people are mentioning to reboot or not reboot. My question is, what continuity are people talking about? Marvel or DD (or maybe DD followed on from Marvel, I can't remember).

IDW having the license would make me curious to pick this title up, but I would be less interested if it was already bogged down in continuity issues. That's not to say I wouldn't pick it up initially, but it may cause me to lose interest if I don't know what some plot points/references are related to.
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DDP followed Marvel so its all one continuity

I actually dont read or watch things until there is a lot of issues or episodes out so I like lots of backstory

for example I just watched the first 4 seasons of lost and cant wait until the seaseon final.
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

polystyleneman wrote:
Having trouble finding Ryall's post, but I'm guessing Larry Hama? He is the Simon Furman of G.I.Joe, after all.


Larry Hama it is! (although I always thought Simon Furman was the Larry Hama of Transformers, not the other way around LOL Razz ) I love TF, too Smile

Thank you, IDW!!!!!! This is a dream come true for me.

On the reboot vs. no reboot issue, I vote: Keep the Marvel continuity, ditch the DDP stories. Pick up where Marvel #155 left off!
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reboot. (Though why does the decision have to be so stark? Why couldn't it be based in part on the original Marvel continuity, but with flexibility to deviate. So some of what you know as history is fixed, but parts that are less the 'core' of the original storyline are discardable. Artistic license.)

I'm not a huge 'Joe fan, but I'll have to pick up IDW #1.
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've asked this before, but other people may have different input on it -- how much previous material would a new reader want or feel they have to read in order to get up to speed if an ongoing continuity was followed?

And does it involve reading 'classic' material with production values that tend to put off readers of modern comics?
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take the original GI Joe comic -- Issue 1 starts with a Joe team already in place, and they're off to the races with virtually no backstory. You could do the same here, except accept that there is a backstory, which could be nodded to along the way, in the same way that Marvel filled it in from scratch. You don't have to know what came before, but if you do, it adds another dimension.

But Denyer's point is a good one. I guess the question for Ryall boils down to this: who's going to be buying these books? If its a younger, newer audience, then you want a new story in which they don't have to know much at all (sure, some tips of the hat to the old, but not anything dependant on it). If its a hardcore existing fanbase that's been holding its breath waiting for someone to pick up their old stories and run with them, well, that's a different product.

My instinct is that its more the former than the latter. But that's based on the fact that most tv advertising is aimed at teenagers for a reason.
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say start fresh. 25 years of continuity is too much for creators and new readers to keep track of.

Plus, the backstories of the 80s continuity go all the way back to Vietnam. That would mean almost 40 years of active service for some of these cats.
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

polystyleneman wrote:

Plus, the backstories of the 80s continuity go all the way back to Vietnam. That would mean almost 40 years of active service for some of these cats.

Good point. (I voted reboot)
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

polystyleneman wrote:
I say start fresh. 25 years of continuity is too much for creators and new readers to keep track of.

Plus, the backstories of the 80s continuity go all the way back to Vietnam. That would mean almost 40 years of active service for some of these cats.
I agree with you. I'm sure Larry Hama would love the chance to retell the origins of the Joe characters and updating their backstories for modern audiences.

But, either way, reboot or not, I'm excited. Thank goodness "A Real American Hero" will be continuing and not jettisoned in favor of their live-action movie counterparts.
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

polystyleneman wrote:
I say start fresh. 25 years of continuity is too much for creators and new readers to keep track of.

Plus, the backstories of the 80s continuity go all the way back to Vietnam. That would mean almost 40 years of active service for some of these cats.


This is exacly how I feel. Start it fresh; IDW started Transformers fresh so why not the Joes? Alot of Transformers fans read and enjoyed what they have done with the reboot so if IDW does reboot the Joes I'm sure they'll do a good job. Get old readers and new readers.
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ro-Dan wrote:
polystyleneman wrote:
I say start fresh. 25 years of continuity is too much for creators and new readers to keep track of.

Plus, the backstories of the 80s continuity go all the way back to Vietnam. That would mean almost 40 years of active service for some of these cats.
I agree with you. I'm sure Larry Hama would love the chance to retell the origins of the Joe characters and updating their backstories for modern audiences.
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but he just did that 2 years ago with GI JOE DECLASSIFIED

why do it again?
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I notice all the guys with TF avatars are pro-reboot, while the long time Joe guys are mostly against it. TF needed a reboot, as it was pretty messy, but Joe just isn't that cumbersome. It doesn't need a reboot. What stories would they tell in a new continuity that they can't tell now? New origins? No thanks. There aren't many dead characters and they could bring a few back with some choice retconning. Boom, continuity preserved.

I know many hardcore Joe fans want a new series to succeed, but starting over from square one seems both unnecessary and painful. The TF reboot was slow enough, even though it was warranted. Let's not put Joe through that unnecessarily.
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PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2008 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nacho wrote:
I notice all the guys with TF avatars are pro-reboot, while the long time Joe guys are mostly against it. TF needed a reboot, as it was pretty messy, but Joe just isn't that cumbersome. It doesn't need a reboot. What stories would they tell in a new continuity that they can't tell now? New origins? No thanks. There aren't many dead characters and they could bring a few back with some choice retconning. Boom, continuity preserved.

I know many hardcore Joe fans want a new series to succeed, but starting over from square one seems both unnecessary and painful. The TF reboot was slow enough, even though it was warranted. Let's not put Joe through that unnecessarily.


totaly agree with EVERYTHING you said bro!
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