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| Quote: | | They could fly in the cartoon for the initial 3-parter, after that you pretty much didn't see them doing it |
They run out of ore-13 
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| Soundwave wrote: | | Matrix wrote: | | Soundwave wrote: | | And why cant the Decepticons fly in the comics? Other than the flyers that is. |
Because then it makes no sense the Autobots can't fly, put simply. |
Hnnnn.... Not if Part of becoming Decepticon later required some sort of upgrade, antigrav units with directional thrusters, or something much more elaborate and fancy. To give them a tactical air power advantage during the war. :p |
And you're telling me that over the time the war went on, escalation didn't occur and the autobots did nothing to counter it?
It's a gaping plot hole in a cartoon that already patronises children's intelligence to an unimaginable degree. I'd rather we steered as far away from it as possible and quit stagnating the franchise by reinvoking bad ideas from the past.
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O_o point taken. Mood: unapreciated.
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Sorry to come across grufly. Words cannot describe the contempt for children the Transformers cartoon has, however...
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Liked the issue, but here's the irksome point for me. For some reason it seems that from Furman till now the entire potential for Gestalts has been forever squashed by the purposeful killing of combiner members.
Urg! I hate killings. There are only so many "extra" G1'ers before it basically boils down to the original 30 odd main members. Howabout we just get to brass tax. Kill everyone that doesn't belong to the 1984 toy list and get on with our story. Is that the direction you want to go? Everyone's fodder except the those printed on the original toy catalogue?
Well other than that I certainly did enjoy this issue. Guess I'll have to get over my death gripe eventually.
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| Quote: | | Liked the issue, but here's the irksome point for me. For some reason it seems that from Furman till now the entire potential for Gestalts has been forever squashed by the purposeful killing of combiner members. |
I can only think of Devastator's dead leg. What other combiner member was killed? Or for that matter, in RiD?
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| The Rev wrote: | Liked the issue, but here's the irksome point for me. For some reason it seems that from Furman till now the entire potential for Gestalts has been forever squashed by the purposeful killing of combiner members.
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What? Barber killed the one Aerialbot member that isn't necessary for Superion. I fully expect the Aerialbots to become some sort of monstrous Superion out in the Cybertron wildlands. The whole thing about Barrel Roll telling Dirge that the "flyers have to stick together" is a massive bit of foreshadowing. |
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I think there should be an open playing field when it comes to death in TFs. I dont think anyone should be immune regardless of status with perhaps the exception of Rodimus in MTMTE and Prowl and BB in RiD. But I think its fair game or should be fair game for everyone else.
It adds to the tension knowing anyone is capable of being killed instead of the usual core group always surviving. Thats just my opinion.
While I would be sad if my namesake bit the bullet or Whirl Or Swerve did it wouldnt be the end of the world and would show that the writers mean business.
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| ultramagnus1 wrote: | I think there should be an open playing field when it comes to death in TFs. I dont think anyone should be immune regardless of status with perhaps the exception of Rodimus in MTMTE and Prowl and BB in RiD. But I think its fair game or should be fair game for everyone else.
It adds to the tension knowing anyone is capable of being killed instead of the usual core group always surviving. Thats just my opinion.
While I would be sad if my namesake bit the bullet or Whirl Or Swerve did it wouldnt be the end of the world and would show that the writers mean business. |
Except for Optimus Prime.
It's so boring and overdone.
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| KJ wrote: | | ultramagnus1 wrote: | I think there should be an open playing field when it comes to death in TFs. I dont think anyone should be immune regardless of status with perhaps the exception of Rodimus in MTMTE and Prowl and BB in RiD. But I think its fair game or should be fair game for everyone else.
It adds to the tension knowing anyone is capable of being killed instead of the usual core group always surviving. Thats just my opinion.
While I would be sad if my namesake bit the bullet or Whirl Or Swerve did it wouldnt be the end of the world and would show that the writers mean business. |
Except for Optimus Prime.
It's so boring and overdone. |
I think he has had his death  Anyway another point is that if a bot dies he stays dead. Otherwise it lessens the impact knowing they could come back
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The death factor doesn't bother me. Unless they kill Soundwave. That would erk me greatly. However the way the comics written it wouldn't be the end for me. Still.....O_O put that mental gun away Barber!!!!
Anyways. The recent Death in TF Prime only added to the Whoa factor!
It can be cool for a story at times.
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...wait, did they mention the Galactic Council? 
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When they're talking about the housing situation (everyone's in old spaceships and the ruins of Kimia), Starscream says it's no wonder the council wont return their calls.
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I hope that means we'll get to see them soon...
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| Bludgeon wrote: | | Quote: | | Liked the issue, but here's the irksome point for me. For some reason it seems that from Furman till now the entire potential for Gestalts has been forever squashed by the purposeful killing of combiner members. |
I can only think of Devastator's dead leg. What other combiner member was killed? Or for that matter, in RiD? |
I thought a couple of technobots bit the dust in Chaos. That would eliminate Computron. Also I thought one of the Predacons died not so long ago or maybe that was a Stunticon. I'll have to do some re-reading to be sure.
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