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Eagleyes · Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:29 pm Post subject: G.I. Joe 200th issue

What would you like to see when RAH hits 200?

Call me a romantic fool, but I'd like to see SnakeEyes & Scarlett wedding

abner419 · Forum Zombie Joined: 28 May 2009 Posts: 417

The Snake-Eyes/Scarlett wedding.

I know it's cheesy but come on, after 30 years lets get these 2 together officially!

And P.S. - a big ass battle would be nice as well!

Torpedo · Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:58 pm Post subject:

A crossover with Transformers.

Laughing

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ER · Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:19 pm Post subject:

#1, #50, #100 and #150 were all double-sized issues so it would be an absolute crime if IDW strays from the pattern - whatever we get it should be 44 pages!

My vote is for a massive, epic, three-way battle between Joe, Cobra, and Iron Grenadiers, featuring all kinds of classic vehicles and characters in their vintage outfits - combat in the sky, water and land all at once! More of what we got in #73-76 and then some Smile

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shanecdavis · Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 7:10 pm Post subject:

Great idea Eagleyes! Just want to caution you guys though not to get too specific with your ideas.

Personally, I think a Snake Eyes/Scarlett wedding would be cool, especially since DDP didn't give us one either. If not that, how about a Flint/Lady Jay wedding? Aside from that, a big battle that maybe introduces a third side to the ARAHverse that would make jamar excited to read ARAH again.

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Viceroy · Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:03 pm Post subject:

If Larry Hama wrote it , a Snake Eyes/Scarlett Wedding would be great. Stalker as the Best Man and Jinx as the Maid of Honor. It would a nice milestone, and SE deserves a happy ending.
If GI Joe #200 occurs, let's hope IDW pulls out all the stops with an Alex Ross painted cover, for example. Guest appearances by Joe Colton and General Austin.
The story would have to be great. I imagine Hawk & Stalker would play a role (since Hawk, Snake Eyes,Scarlett and Stalker were more or less Larry's main GI Joe characters; they appeared more often than any other Joes in the entire run of the Marvel era.
Storm Shadow of course, since he's SE's pal. Jinx as she's Scarlett's best friend, something only Larry Hama and Josh Blaylock took time to emphasize.
I think Cobra Commander would make trouble, but not necessarily with a cliched plot device of a)Scarlett getting killed, or b) both Scarlett and Jinx getting kidnapped and forcing SE to make a choice as to who to rescue. Either would be so predictable. And flat
A 200th issue should be at least 80 pages long, regardless of the ultimate story and have pin ups, profiles, text pieces.
Maybe, since he's also an artist, Larry can draw himself, Herb Trimpe, Tom De Falco (GI Joe's first Editor), Andy Schmidt and Stan Lee as Wedding guests should the SE/Scarlett marriage be the main story.
200 can also have, as a story. ,the anniversary of the fornation of the GI Joe Team. We've read GI Joe Declassified, but we've NEVER learned WHY General Austin and General Flagg initiated the GI Joe Team since the US Arny already had Delta Force in place at the time.
Conversely, #200 can be a parallel issue where we see both the formation of GI Joe as well as that of Cobra Command
Or, we can have Snake Eyes and Scarlett leave the unit, and reminisce on their careers. (Honestly, this is too limiting; it can also apply to Hawk or Joe Colton, but it wouldn't necessarily involve the team itself. )
Or, #200 can be an anthology, a GI Joe Team main story, then a Snake Eyes/Scarlett tale, then solo vignettes on Stalker, Duke, Lady Jaye, Cobra Commander, the Baroness and Destro, for example.
Of course, since Larry sometimes integrates real events in the canon, a GI Joe take on dealing with Iran's threat against the Strait of Hormuz may be a story using a GI Joe team.
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Mamu_Nestor · Transforumer Joined: 23 Feb 2011 Posts: 998 Location: TX

Man I just want to see it get there and be a double sized issue. A lot of the mentioned ideas are great. I'd like part of it to be the SE Scarlett wedding and part being the Flint Lady Jaye and part the Destro, Barroness wedding. Maybe even a story about a past mission/event written/told by SE.

No matter what happens I hope that they take the time and do it right. Pick a fan favorite artist or have Hama do it himself. (if he'd want to)
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Eagleyes · Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:50 pm Post subject:

flashback of SnakeEyes in his CIA days?

cashel · Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:16 pm Post subject:

I agree with er. Three ways are the way to go.
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jackharkness · I'm kind of a big deal Joined: 02 Aug 2011 Posts: 247

wow, a LOT of good ideas, i would actually go for some REALLY different, lets see a g.i. joe team from say 2050, consisting of the sons and daughters of the original 13 (i KNOW you guys are gonna shoot this down, but, c'mon!! i can't come up with any thing else right now, it's 1:00 am here in ny and i gotta be at work in like 2 hrs, besides, all you guys took the really good ideas)or one of the original 13 in the future, retired, and writing his/her memoirs (another idea to get shot down, deal with it)
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jackharkness · I'm kind of a big deal Joined: 02 Aug 2011 Posts: 247

and besides, it took clark kent ONLY 50 years to marry lois lane

shanecdavis · Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:54 am Post subject:

Viceroy · Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:28 pm Post subject:

I love that one, Eagleeyes! Yeah, its high time Larry disclosed SE's time with the Agency as he's alluded to in the Marvel series. Cool! For all we know he outranks Hawk. Smile

, (But not Joe Colton, of course! Smile

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And Mamu Nestor got it right-if ARAH reaches the big #200, regardless what the ultimate story will turn out to be, the story must be worth of the hype.
A tale told by SE in first person would also be cool since it would be a nice change of pace. It worked for Iron Man and for Master of Kung Fu.
A GI Joe Next Generation well.. . it would have to be presented well. The last thing I think the fans will want is having descendants for the sake of having them. If this happens, the premise will have to be really good.
Oh, yes, that scene from GI Joe #97? Larry still flagged on GI Joe #110 that Lady Jaye has an 'antagonistic relationship with Scarlett since the very beginning." and that they can be 'civil when with their boyfriends'. Note , it was Flint, not Lady J who tried to talk down to Snakes. More to the point, LARRY WROTE the Lady Jaye Profile. Since he crafted that file and Never amended it. (#110 is 12-13 issues since #97) , his take still stands. Nothing I can do about it. Larry wrote the LJ profile in #110 with no amendment.
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shanecdavis · Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:31 pm Post subject:

Actually, if in your Joeverse Alison and Shana hate each other and Jinx is her bff, that's fine. That's the beauty of continuity. It's whatever we make of it. In my continuity, #117-154 doesn't even exist. I have to fudge a little to explain why Mindbender is alive and some of COBRA High Command are brainwashed in #155 1/2, but what long running title doesn't force you to do that, right?

You choose to take what is written in a filecard over what happened in the actual comic, that is fine. Your choice, your continuity. I just don't like you trying to present it as fact. There is not one shred of evidence throughout the entire Marvel run where Mr. Hama establishes that Jinx has ANY relationship with Shana. Not one. On the other hand, here are specific examples of Mr. Hama establishing a relationship between Alison and Shana:

Marvel #63, page 1, panel 1 - Alison and Shana on vacation together. You don't go on vacation with someone you can't get along with.

Marvel #63, page 11, panel 3 - Alison and Shana are such close friends that she doesn't think twice running through a mine field to get to her.

Marvel #67, page 7, panel 1 - Alison waiting around for Shana to debark from the C-130.

Marvel #67, page 8, panels 4-6 - Flint goes off on them to which Alison responds by decking him.

Marvel #67, page 9, panel 2 - Alison sticks up for Shana. No way she responds like this if they're relationship was "antagonistic".

Marvel #97, page 8, panel 2 - Alison waiting to hear news about Shana, and jumps up when the doc shows up. When's the last time you visited someone in the hospital that you were only 'civil' with?

Just think about this logically for a second. Do you really think Snake Eyes and Flint were good friends? Do you think it was Flint and Snake Eyes that planned the vacation to the Caribbean? No way. They were there because both Alison and Shana wanted to be there together.

Again, if you want Jinx and Scarlett to be 'bff's in your Joeverse, I won't say another thing about it. Saying that Mr. Hama emphasized it in any way though, as much as I really really really REALLY tried to resist and let it go, I just couldn't. One of my many faults.