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John Pannozzi · I'm kind of a big deal Joined: 05 Nov 2010 Posts: 119

I think if IDW has to have #16 (and later on #22 and 23) colorized, they should have Mark Martin himself do the coloring.

ILoveBeingATurtle · Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:45 am Post subject:

coolray85 · Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 9:45 am Post subject:

oh, I understood that spengs, but thanks for trying to cear that up for me;)...but I knew that, I was wondering about the following:
so, they cllect direct eastman and laird stuff in ultimate right?
and all the other stuff gets re-released also...in these tpbs..
so, if this is the first of these 'non-lairdman' comics, then why already leave out from the start(I mean issue 12, or do you think that will be reprinted in vol 2 of the ultimate since it is a laird project?hmmmm could be, too..)
I don't really need to complain here, as I am quite happy that SO MUCH turtles comics is going on!!yes!they're back, you better believe it!! Wink

I just didn't get what they were doing with issue 12(or whats up for 13, 15?)...#12 is the one I have never read so far, but was always intrigued by...
cowabunga, brothers!!!! Smile

Matches Malone · I'm kind of a big deal Joined: 15 Sep 2011 Posts: 120

coolray85 · Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:31 pm Post subject:

oh...I didn't notice this...thanks for pointing that out..

Abnormal Freak · Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:26 pm Post subject:

I'm guessing IDW are releasing them in chronological order instead of by artists because they probably know some collections won't sell well. :p Lord knows I'd never buy an all-Hedden/McWeeney book, but this also means I have to buy that garbage again just to have the other issues they're packed with. :(

Coloring? I don't really get that... I typically hate digitized coloring of B&W comics because the computery look doesn't mesh with the old drawings. Such was the case with Mirage's 25th anniversary color reprint of #1.

#18 was already colored by Bode (for the second print), but I'm guessing instead of reprinting that primeness, they'll do a new and more bland coloring job. :p
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coolray85 · Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:16 pm Post subject:

man, it'd be a crime to reject mar bode's original color work here...the man is a bode!!!! Wink

Matches Malone · I'm kind of a big deal Joined: 15 Sep 2011 Posts: 120

Memmil · Red Shirt Joined: 20 May 2011 Posts: 18

Just got the first "ultimate" collection in hand and i have to say that the artwork really has to be fixed in volume 2. Some issues are'nt that bad but issues 2, 3 and raphael are really awful. There isn't really use for this ultimate format if artwork is fuzzy and pixelated. Also problem with full spreads mentioned before is annoying. Those covers printed through book are also pretty blurry and might look much better if they're scaled down.

Otherwise the book in pretty ideal with all those annotations. Binding, cover and paper are all great but im really looking forward to see all those flaws fixed.

Abnormal Freak · Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:21 pm Post subject:

Me too, man, but we appear to be the only two people who have a problem with the poor scan quality of the first book. Something tells me that two complaints isn't enough to warrant changing what's already been done with book two or doing a fixed reprint of book one. Hopefully books three and following will have better reproduction quality, otherwise I'll likely stop supporting the line (mostly due to monetary issues) and just stick to my single issues.
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OsirisKing0721 · Slayer Joined: 21 Dec 2011 Posts: 59

The quality looks like it is on par with a fifth printing by Mirage in 1988. I thought the reason for the appearance of diagonal (pixelated) lines was to originally to save Mr. Eastman and Mr. Laird production fees because they could only afford two colors (the 2nd color was used on the cover and not in the story itself.) Rather than paying additional costs for grey, they managed to work the technology so the same black ink can be used for a shady grey that is not using grey ink. The only gripe I would have about the Ultimate Collection is that it doesn't have the smell of old comic book.

Abnormal Freak · Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:51 am Post subject:

You've lost me. They used DuoShade toning, if that's what you're talking about, which is a paper which, when one chemical agent is brushed on, diagonal lines become visible creating a light gray tone, whereas when another chemical agent is applied, a crosshatched pattern is revealed, simulating a darker tone. This is how they achieved the gray tones in the B&W book. (And the early issues had one color, two-toned covers.)

But as I posted here, the Ultimate Collection Vol. 1 is not all that it should be. Faded toning and jagged pixelated lines are the offenders, and there's no reason the book should look this way.
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Memmil · Red Shirt Joined: 20 May 2011 Posts: 18

Maybe editors have heard us. It has taken pretty long with the second volume... hopefully they've been scanning new files.

OsirisKing0721 · Slayer Joined: 21 Dec 2011 Posts: 59

Doesn't the paper need to be duotone to achieve the "blend" you're talking about? I would be willing donate and rip out a page from my Ultimate Collection to see if the paper is duotone. I should look into it... sumthin' to do tomorrow. Or maybe... The info inside the cover says it was printed in South Korea, and they were the last place on earth that had duo-tone paper, but it was stolen by zombies, and the turtles had to stop them, and zombies ate the paper with brains, and the turtles got infected, and infestation stopped when the cure was duotone paper, so they saved the world, and their trophy is a not perfect Ultimate Collection... yeah, I'm going with that story. Definitely zombies.

Memmil · Red Shirt Joined: 20 May 2011 Posts: 18

Ahem... Why do you think that the paper used in book is duotone? Duotone paper is used when creating original art, wich is scanned and then printed.