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DanielW Transforumer

Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 9620 Location: The Village
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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I think what it did was draw one of the biggest "this is, fundamentally, a different person" picture we've had thus far. Although McCoy this this one (and Scotty for that matter) each got shown how htey're different.
McCoy is less overtly confrontational (and really a lot less racist/specist) towards Spock, instead he calms Bomer down, keeps everyone on track and then, in private tell Spock exactly what he thinks. And does so in such a cutting insightful manner that gives Spock far more pause then any amount of "you cold-hearted, green-blooded, pointy-eared machine!" style colour would have.
And Scotty, originally someone rather reserved, in this timeline is far more full of his own brilliance, I wonder if this'll ever come back to bite him. Not that it's a bad thing, particularly when he's so full of the Pegg swagger that he does on both film and page.
I also like how Kirk supported Uhura while effectively taking the blame for her actions - I hope this'll come back to bite him in the future. I did like how he's learning when to play by the rules and how to break them officially (love his chapter and verse explanation to the commissioner about why and how he's going to reassert his command rights). _________________ Ohh 'Eck! |
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jackharkness I'm kind of a big deal
Joined: 02 Aug 2011 Posts: 247
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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i feel that mccoy was really the guy how would try anything to get a laugh out of some one, so, i think (tos) mccoy was trying to get spock to loosen up a bit, and EMBRACE his human heritage, and not conceal it like a two inch pimple on your forhead on prom night(lousy description but the only one i could come up with) AND spock always took it in stride and did NOT think of bones as an ass (the reading of kirks will in the tholian web for example) AND i HIGHLY doubt that spock chose bones as keeper of his katra because he was the closet mind spock could reach, remember, the katra is no small thing, to be caretaker of ones katra, means that there is ALOT of trust, and besides i always saw the kirk/spock/mccoy relationship as that of three brothers, they argue, fight, curse each other, BUT they are there for each other
now, going back to the comic, i liked it, i'm glad we actually SEE the creatures this time around, and i like how they tweaked it so a DIFFERENT solution presented itself, plus i HIGHLY doubt that kirk didn't suspect that uhura would do something like that, but it DID give him plausible deniability IF the rescue attempt went south, can't wait for next issue, any idea what story it'll be? |
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Pauln6 Red Shirt
Joined: 24 Sep 2011 Posts: 16
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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They made such a big thing about not warping out of the solar system it's obvious that he just wanted plausible deniability so that he could stay in command at the time it was going on.
I'm not sure why they don't travel at impulse speeds in solar systems anyway, like they did in TMP. Gravitational variances and stray objects would be far more common than out in open space. They used warping out as a throwaway special effect quite a lot in TNG but would you really want to try warping through the Kuiper Belt? I suppose they warp upwards above the gravitational plane created by the star and avoid objects that way? That doesn't seem to be what they do though... _________________ Star Trek/Babylon 5 - Comic http://www.youtube.com/user/pauln6
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The_Scourge_of_Romulus Comic Book Guy
Joined: 17 Jun 2011 Posts: 40 Location: Classified
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Pauln6 wrote: | They made such a big thing about not warping out of the solar system it's obvious that he just wanted plausible deniability so that he could stay in command at the time it was going on.
I'm not sure why they don't travel at impulse speeds in solar systems anyway, like they did in TMP. Gravitational variances and stray objects would be far more common than out in open space. They used warping out as a throwaway special effect quite a lot in TNG but would you really want to try warping through the Kuiper Belt? I suppose they warp upwards above the gravitational plane created by the star and avoid objects that way? That doesn't seem to be what they do though... |
Actually, astrophysically speaking, the matter density of virtually anywhere in space is negligible on a Human scale. The Kuiper belt, for example, has only about a tenth of the mass of the Earth, distributed over the surface of a sphere with the radius of Neptune's orbit (or thereabouts). Mind you, Star Trek fairly consistently features extremely high-density asteroid belts and such, so it makes sense from an in-universe perspective.
...Plus, I suppose you could also argue that the warp drive contracts the amount of space in front of the ship, thereby increasing the observed density of matter, but now I'm kind of splitting hairs. |
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jackharkness I'm kind of a big deal
Joined: 02 Aug 2011 Posts: 247
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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| The_Scourge_of_Romulus wrote: | | Pauln6 wrote: | They made such a big thing about not warping out of the solar system it's obvious that he just wanted plausible deniability so that he could stay in command at the time it was going on.
I'm not sure why they don't travel at impulse speeds in solar systems anyway, like they did in TMP. Gravitational variances and stray objects would be far more common than out in open space. They used warping out as a throwaway special effect quite a lot in TNG but would you really want to try warping through the Kuiper Belt? I suppose they warp upwards above the gravitational plane created by the star and avoid objects that way? That doesn't seem to be what they do though... |
Actually, astrophysically speaking, the matter density of virtually anywhere in space is negligible on a Human scale. The Kuiper belt, for example, has only about a tenth of the mass of the Earth, distributed over the surface of a sphere with the radius of Neptune's orbit (or thereabouts). Mind you, Star Trek fairly consistently features extremely high-density asteroid belts and such, so it makes sense from an in-universe perspective.
...Plus, I suppose you could also argue that the warp drive contracts the amount of space in front of the ship, thereby increasing the observed density of matter, but now I'm kind of splitting hairs. |
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Pauln6 Red Shirt
Joined: 24 Sep 2011 Posts: 16
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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:58 am Post subject: |
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Yeah I forget how far out the kuiper belt is and it's hard to get any impression of scale sat here at my PC. Warping space must have some effect of scrunching matter into a small space - travelling at warp 9 must contract space to such a degree that I would have thought doing so anywhere near any solar system would be rather dangerous. We also have to remember that, for whatever reason (and I suppose we have to assume that it is power conservation) ships at warp only employ navigational deflectors as standard. They don't want to be running into too much large debris or they'll have to run with full shields switched on.
Then of course there is the issue that in NuTrek shields don't seem to deflect debris at all... whatever that it all about... _________________ Star Trek/Babylon 5 - Comic http://www.youtube.com/user/pauln6
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