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KJ
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This is great news.
For those leaving, I'm sorry that you are choosing to bow out now. You're going to miss out on some great stuff.
I'm excited. We're about to hit a new golden age for GIJOE, and I can't wait to be there for it.
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Sparky
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:19 am Post subject: Re: GI Joe gets a reboot |
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| Phil Kost wrote: | Wizard interviewed Hama about the upcoming GI Joe book here.
So the discussion is over...reboot it is. |
It looks like the interview isn't there anymore, I guess they posted it too soon and have pulled it!
So he's being given "amazing amount of free rein", but looks like he has to include all of the characters from the movie at least. |
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Ro-Dan
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:49 am Post subject: |
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| KJ wrote: | | For those leaving, I'm sorry that you are choosing to bow out now. You're going to miss out on some great stuff. |
I still believe all those who say they're out are still gonna pick up the first issue. The curiosity will be too great to pass up.
| KJ wrote: | | I'm excited. We're about to hit a new golden age for GIJOE, and I can't wait to be there for it. |
Most Joe fans would say the Marvel era was the golden age. So you saying that IDW will create a NEW golden age is a bold statement. However, it's not beyond the realm of possibility. The fact that Hama is given the captain's wheel with free reign supports what you say.
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Eagleyes
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I remember reading (where I dont remember) Larry Hama listing his core characters he would start over with again. Its been a while back, maybe when he wrote GIJOE declassified. I do remember Beach Head and Tunnel Rat being mentioned.
While Larry probably will not rewrite stories from the past, I think he will be true to the file cards that he wrote. So I think it may be a reboot however the core origins from the file cards will remain in tact.
What Larry will have is patriotic themes, good vs evil, and character development and interaction.
All you hard core GIJOE fans from the past 25 years like myself, if you kept reading Josh Blaylock, Brandon Jerwa, Joe Casey, and Mark Powers work, if you bought every single issue even when Lady Jaye died, when the Red Shadows disappeared as quickly as they appeared, when Snake Eyes died and resurrected by red ninja voodoo to be a zombie warrior, then you should out of respect for the man who created GIJOE to at least pick up the first few issues and give it a try. C'mon! Yo Joe! If you ended up wasting a few bucks over it, look at how much you spent over far less quality stories. |
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Duo Maxwell
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:46 am Post subject: |
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| Ro-Dan wrote: | | The fact that Hama is given the captain's wheel with free reign supports what you say. |
Well, Simon Furman was given free reign with Transformers when IDW picked up the license, but now we're being given a new direction under a new writer. Of course, Furman hasn't been shown the door as a result, but we shouldn't expect that such a scenario won't happen to Larry Hama as well.
Let's just hope G.I. Joe gets an actual ongoing instead of a Joe-equivalent to the "-ation" series of Transformers.
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Ro-Dan
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:27 am Post subject: |
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| Eagleyes wrote: | | While Larry probably will not rewrite stories from the past, I think he will be true to the file cards that he wrote. So I think it may be a reboot however the core origins from the file cards will remain in tact. |
That's what I'm hoping for. Those file cards represent each characters' "bible" and should always be adhered to.
| Eagleyes wrote: | | What Larry will have is patriotic themes... |
God, I hope so. Considering the movie is going to feature a global-based Joe team I hope the comic doesn't follow suit. Give me "A Real American Hero" any day! I'm feeling especially patriotic today. Happy 4th of July to all my fellow Americans!
| Eagleyes wrote: | | ...if you bought every single issue even when Lady Jaye died...when Snake Eyes died and resurrected by red ninja voodoo to be a zombie warrior... |
Perfect reasons why I am happy we're getting a reboot.
| Eagleyes wrote: | | ...then you should out of respect for the man who created GIJOE to at least pick up the first few issues and give it a try. C'mon! Yo Joe! |
That's EXACTLY how I feel!
| Duo Maxwell wrote: | | Well, Simon Furman was given free reign with Transformers when IDW picked up the license, but now we're being given a new direction under a new writer. Of course, Furman hasn't been shown the door as a result, but we shouldn't expect that such a scenario won't happen to Larry Hama as well. |
True, but in Shane McCarthy's interviews he has exhibited nothing but love and respect for The Transformers. Plus, we're STILL getting Simon Furman stories that are being published concurrently with AHM: Revelation and Maximum Dinobots.
It's very cool that IDW has both Simon Furman and Larry Hama writing Transformers and G.I. Joe, respectively. The two "Godfathers" of those franchises working at the same house is a great thing.
| Duo Maxwell wrote: | | Let's just hope G.I. Joe gets an actual ongoing instead of a Joe-equivalent to the "-ation" series of Transformers. |
From what I have read G.I. Joe will be an ONGOING series.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:19 am Post subject: |
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| Eagleyes wrote: | | All you hard core GIJOE fans from the past 25 years like myself, if you kept reading Josh Blaylock, Brandon Jerwa, Joe Casey, and Mark Powers work, if you bought every single issue even when Lady Jaye died, when the Red Shadows disappeared as quickly as they appeared, when Snake Eyes died and resurrected by red ninja voodoo to be a zombie warrior, then you should out of respect for the man who created GIJOE to at least pick up the first few issues and give it a try. C'mon! Yo Joe! If you ended up wasting a few bucks over it, look at how much you spent over far less quality stories. |
Word. I had some diatribe all written out but I ended up re-reading the quote and figured, "Meh, nuff said."
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beantownprime
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:12 am Post subject: |
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| That's sweet. I've never been a big Joe fan, but since it's a reboot I'll give it a try. Any word on who the artist is? |
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KJ
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:31 am Post subject: |
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| Ro-Dan wrote: | | KJ wrote: | | For those leaving, I'm sorry that you are choosing to bow out now. You're going to miss out on some great stuff. |
I still believe all those who say they're out are still gonna pick up the first issue. The curiosity will be too great to pass up.
| KJ wrote: | | I'm excited. We're about to hit a new golden age for GIJOE, and I can't wait to be there for it. |
Most Joe fans would say the Marvel era was the golden age. So you saying that IDW will create a NEW golden age is a bold statement. However, it's not beyond the realm of possibility. The fact that Hama is given the captain's wheel with free reign supports what you say. |
Yeah, I think that too.
All of this has happened before with IDW and the TF license, and all of it will happen again.
Same comments with Joe as with TF. 'I'm too invested in the old material. I'll never buy anything new.'
'It doesn't look as good.'
'It just NOT GIJOE/TF'
'I'll be in my cold, cold grave before I buy an IDW GIJOE/Transformers book.'
Those same people are now the ones praising every issue, and retro-actively stating they were all for it in the first place.
Time makes fools of all of us, I believe the saying goes?
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Denyer
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| Straight-Edge wrote: | | That's a new buzz-label huh? |
It sounds better than the original marketing slogan of "you're a teenager, you'll be right at home with our emo cast -- oh, and most of the female leads aren't even vaguely realistically proportioned and wear little more than paint".
(Which is entirely the reason I read Marvel as a kid. It's effective marketing.)
Also used to enjoy the Marvel Universe books, but if you look at longer timeline versions such as the ones at http://www.uncannyxmen.net/ it rapidly becomes apparent how much Marvel **** with books that get dragged into events... and how much repetition of events there are in characters' lives. It's as if writers think, "stuck for a plot idea? s/he loses/controls/reverts their powers/partner/etc... oh hell, I'll just roll a dice."
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cashel
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the NAMES may be the same... but one's name does not define his character. i wish no ill will, and hope the book does fine for idw, but i will not be taking this ride. in fact, i am very saddened by the decision. i still see reboots as the alternative for those with short attention spans. but, alas, i am in the minority. i don't mind what-if tales or retellings if the original is not scrapped in the process. unless that which occcured before was published by dreamwave.  oh, well, this has already loosened up my pocketbook to try out new books. and a good thing can only last so long.
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Denyer
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:16 am Post subject: |
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| cashel wrote: | | one's name does not define his character |
Absolutely. But I do think the heart and soul of them is more their creator than any amount of sequences of events. Kirby's New Gods, for instance, are currently being pissed all over by DC. And with Hama it wasn't a case of burn-out as with, say, Budiansky... he's fired up and enthusiastic even now.
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FireChief420
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Can we at least get Ryall to confirm or deny this news 
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Ro-Dan
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| beantownprime wrote: | | That's sweet. I've never been a big Joe fan, but since it's a reboot I'll give it a try. |
Well all right! See, that's what's going to happen with a reboot. IDW will be attracting a lot of new readers.
| beantownprime wrote: | | Any word on who the artist is? |
Apparently the artist is Robert Atkins. You may want to check out this THREAD over at the GI Joe Comic Forum. Atkins himself confirms it.
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DanielW
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| beantownprime wrote: | | That's sweet. I've never been a big Joe fan, but since it's a reboot I'll give it a try. Any word on who the artist is? |
That's my position as well.
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