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Should The Comic Be Allowed To Create Its Own Cannon!?

 
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 5:56 pm    Post subject: Should The Comic Be Allowed To Create Its Own Cannon!? Reply with quote

Well after today's events of the MLP:FIM season 3 finale, the show has essentially entered its next phase. And I gotta ask, should the comic have to change with the show, or should it, as with other Hasbro properties like G.I.Joe & Transformers, be allowed to create its own mythos.

I won't like, at this point I like the comics more then the cartoon, I think the people on the books are doing a great job on the first arc and the second arc looks pretty neat. However it seems the book may just remain a supplement to the show, which isn't horrid mind you, but yeah, with the second story about the return of Night Mare moon, I think its safe to say we can put the book in a parallel cannon to the show, as the events of the upcoming storyline or the current one will probably never be mentioned in the toon.

So yeah I gotta ask do you think the MLP:FIM comic should be allowed to become its own cannon, not having to follow everything the show does, but just using what works for it as a building block? Personally I do.

*And I'm more then fine with Twy staying a Unicorn in the comics for as long as it runs!* *Knock on wood!*
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel like most comics based on existing properties always inevitably create their own sort of canon. Transformers, IDW's TMNT comics and of course, Archie's Sonic comics all did their own thing. The MLP comic definitely feels like it's going that route, with the amount of new locations and creatures we've introduced.

I guess whether or not alicorn Twilight makes it into the comic depends on Hasbro and whether or not we want to tie the comic into any future events. (ie if there was a future enemy that appeared that we wanted to cover alongside the show, we would kind of have to pull in alicorn Twilight or the continuity would be weird)

I don't know much of what goes on on the writing end since I'm not involved with that part, but I feel like Hasbro's given us a lot of freedom as long as we don't step on the show's toes or get too creepy/grimdark.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the thought that the comics are allowed to go in their own direction in many ways and not be beholden to strict show canon. I think the closest thing I can equate it to was watching the Transformers as a kid and being annoyed with the show when they killed off all my favorites and introduced new characters I somewhat disliked... but the comic still had all the characters I knew and loved and would continue to until it ended. Sure, they eventually had to introduce the Headmasters and Targetmasters and other toy-related gimmicks, but there was a very definite split between show and comic continuity.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would personally love to see the comics go in a different direction from the tv show. Not only would it give people who really don't like the changes refuge in the comics, it would also allow for freedom to do all kinds of stories they couldn't do on the TV show. I'm all for splitting from cannon with this in mind.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. Pinkie's party cannon is enough already. I don't want to see this kind of weapon proliferation in the comic.

More seriously... The comic has taken the challenge of following the show's canon and I would like to see how far they can go before they give up and split the continuity. An expanded universe is more interesting than an alternate one.

Soundalek44 wrote:
*And I'm more then fine with Twy staying a Unicorn in the comics for as long as it runs!* *Knock on wood!*
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give people who really don't like the changes refuge in the comics
That would be especially sad. I want to see the show and the comic build on the changes that occurred this season. Cadance's empire, the CMC's new recruit, Dash's training, Discord's reform and Twilight's ascent all have great potential for future stories. MandoPony says it better.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh I agree, I think having Babs Seed in the book, especially if theres ever a CMC story is a MUST! But yeah as a comic it could take what it wants from the toon, sort of a pick & choose type thing, maybe share the same cannon with the show but split-off before the season 3 finale. But again thats just my opinion.

Edit: And i'd love to see more heartwarming Moments between Scoots & Dash at some point as well. But thats just me. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canon not cannon. One is a collective body of works, the other fires projectiles. Wink

I prefer expanded universe rather than alternate universe. I see the comic series as a way to filling in the gaps that the series leave. Telling stories that the show couldn't possibly tell. Be an extension of what the readers know and love rather than just stopping everything at a certain point in the show and doing your own thing.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Soundalek44 wrote:
Oh I agree, I think having Babs Seed in the book, especially if theres ever a CMC story is a MUST! But yeah as a comic it could take what it wants from the toon, sort of a pick & choose type thing, maybe share the same cannon with the show but split-off before the season 3 finale. But again thats just my opinion.
Some fans think Dash should abandon her dream of becoming a wonderbolt, because otherwise she will distance herself from her friends. Some fans think Discord is ruined. What about we don't play the pick-&-choose game?

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Edit: And i'd love to see more heartwarming Moments between Scoots & Dash at some point as well. But thats just me. Embarassed
Did I really forget to reference the best episode of the season? I did. My bad.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Milestone & Q: I guess you guys are right.

Also, indeed Milestone forgetting to mention Sleepless In Ponyville, FOR SHAME!!!

Again though they could theoretically follow everything but the S3 Finale as thats arguably the biggest change from the show so far. even stuff afterwards with some tweaks here & there.

But I digress, overall I guess expanded universe is indeed better then alternate universe.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brony madness aside,
as neither I nor my seven year old neice were affected at all by the change. (she loves Pinkie Pie and just calls Twilight the purple unicorn) LoL
Now its the purple one with wings LoL

She also has an odd fascination with Rainbow Dash and we have a hard time explaining to her that RD is a girl and not a boy...despite wearing dresses sometimes.

Anywho, comics tend to always be their own canon from shows anyway. and vice versa when one is made from the other. Garfield, any superhero cartoon, Heathcliff, the Disney duck comics, Popeye, ect....

just because one takes elements from one or the other doesn't mean the same events need to have occured in exactly the same way.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly I'd be mighty pleased if the comics were their own thing altogether, just like the TF comics.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Squeakychu wrote:
I would personally love to see the comics go in a different direction from the tv show. Not only would it give people who really don't like the changes refuge in the comics, it would also allow for freedom to do all kinds of stories they couldn't do on the TV show. I'm all for splitting from cannon with this in mind.

I definitely agree with you there. I'd love to see the comics go off in their own direction, too. I mean, the first arc featured Queen Chrysalis and her Changleings in it, and made reference to what happened in the last two eps of Season 2, but, from what I could see, the storyline went its own way, different to the events in Season 3. Hopefully, the following story-arcs in the later issues will follow the same trend.

And ON that note, I remember back when Archie Comics was producing the "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Adventures" comics at the same time that the original animated TMNT series was running on CBS back in the late 80s/early-mid 90s (YES, kids, I just dated myself, because I AM that old. Wink). I seem to remember that the comic followed the TV series pretty closely for like about the first 5 or 6 issues or so, then, after the "Eye of Sarnoth" arc, it went off in its own direction up until the end of the series. (And so did many of the spin-off TMNT comic series that the company did later.)

So I see NO reason why IDW can't go that way, and run with its OWN canon where the comic series is concerned.

And that's MY 2 bits on the subject.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whitewolf_Stormrunner wrote:
Squeakychu wrote:
I would personally love to see the comics go in a different direction from the tv show. Not only would it give people who really don't like the changes refuge in the comics, it would also allow for freedom to do all kinds of stories they couldn't do on the TV show. I'm all for splitting from cannon with this in mind.

I definitely agree with you there. I'd love to see the comics go off in their own direction, too. I mean, the first arc featured Queen Chrysalis and her Changleings in it, and made reference to what happened in the last two eps of Season 2, but, from what I could see, the storyline went its own way, different to the events in Season 3. Hopefully, the following story-arcs in the later issues will follow the same trend.


And yet, so far, not a single story arc in the series, in either series, is contradicts any of the events that that occur during season 3. Rather, the opening story arc is taking place in between the events of A Canterlot Wedding and The Crystal Empire, the micro series is focusing on slice of life stories that could take place during any of the seasons, and the next story arc is shaping up to be yet another interesting original tale where the mane six once again face off against a great evil!

Look, I get why a number of bronies are hoping for the comic to get it's own canon *coughtwilicorncough*, however consider this. Star Wars is the single most successful franchise in the world. Nearly every single book, every single comic, every single cartoon/spin off movie is canon to the six core films. The end result of this is that Star Wars has one of the most complex, vibrant, and realistic feeling universes of any media franchise in existence.

Yes, it would be easier for IDW to do it's own thing with the comic series (They've been quite successful doing that with G.I. Joe and Transformers), yet the greater challenge lies not in making their own universe with this set of characters but rather adding to it. That is much more exciting. Being able to tell new stories that add to and expand upon the world of the show (Archie's Sonic X comic is a fine example of this, not to mention the Teen Titan's comic based on the hit Cartoon Network Series) and ultimately make it feel a little bit more whole.

Note: I'm well aware that Transformers has a very unique canon and that Unicron's the linchpin for the whole thing.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

George Lucas came out like two years ago and said the only things cannon to the movies are the movies.
He declared all the novels, comics, games, and cartoons to be seperate continuities from the movie series.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And what does George Lucas know about Star Wars?

I am only half-joking here.
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