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Some tweets from Christos Gage.
https://twitter.com/Christosgage
| Quote: | Christos Gage@Christosgage
With only two issues of ANGEL & FAITH left to write, I'm a little worried @ScottAllie might figure out I have no idea where I'm going.
Christos Gage@Christosgage
That was a joke. @ScottAllie makes me do outlines, because he's smart and he hates me. And I'll be back for Season 10.
Christos Gage@Christosgage
@Wasgo Season 9 ends at #25. I'm back for Season 10.
Christos Gage@Christosgage
Let us get through Season 9 first!  @Mischlings Will your season 10 book be same characters, or can't tell yet?
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Also Wenxina says Slayalive will be dong a Q/A with Christos Gage at the conclusion of the current arc. |
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New tweet from Christos Gage about next weeks Angel & Faith # 18.
http://twitter.com/Christosgage
| Quote: | Christos Gage@Christosgage
Next week: ANGEL & FAITH #18! Ripper in the 70s! Eyghon! Zombies! Art by @rebekahisaacs & Dan Jackson! And who shows up on the last page?
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Hmm,maybe Spike does arrive in Angel & Faith next issue on the last page and not in # 20 as had been speculated.As also speculated,could be why Scott Allie really wanted Spike # 5 out this week. |
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First advanced review for Angel & Faith # 18.
http://comicsgrinder.com/2013/01/29/angel-and-faith-18-review/
| Quote: | January 29, 2013
ANGEL AND FAITH #18 Review
Angel and Faith #18 brings us back to the massive attack of zombies from the last issue. The fighting is stranger than usual. Just a bonk on the head and, anyone who gets knocked out, is in danger of being possessed by the arch-demon, Eyghon. Nadira and her slayer posse have really walked into this one. As Nadira puts it, This has all gone pear shaped!h But, before all hope is lost, Angel and Faith burst onto the scene. Faith provides the obligatory quip, Hardcore fans donft like zombies who run! And things look good until Faith gets bonked on the head! Here is where Nadira provides a good turn by slicing into Faithfs belly but not to kill her. The flesh wound keeps Faith awake and alert.
Part 3 (of 4) to Death and Consequencesh packs a lot of zombie fighting action as well as explanation of events. You learn that Eyghon almost bit the dust during the Twilight crisis but he was quick enough to possess a dead rat which led to possessing an exhausted homeless man until, a few more possessions later, the demon came back into his own. Possession, we come to see, is not an easy thing. Your average body is going to wear out fairly soon under the demonic pressure. This leads to finding someone more sturdy enfused with magic: Rupert Giles.
At the end of this issue, Nadira, along with her slayers, and Faith have buried the hatchet, quite literally into a number of zombies, and have decided itfs time to work as a team of rivals and make for a fast retreat. Now, unless you find common knowledge to be a spoiler, don't read the next few words..as we often have a cliffhanger guest appearance, who do you think appears to the rescue? Itfs none other than yes, Spike! We have to be grown-ups and just admit it. We'll be on our way to the final arc by Issue 20 which makes clear what lies ahead: Angel and Faith and Spike.
Angel and Faith 18 is available as of January 30. Then we tie up loose ends in #19, due out February 27. And on to the final arc starting with #20, due out March 27. Visit our friends at Dark Horse Comics.
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So as Christos Gage hinted on twitter,set up in Spike # 5 and speculated on,Spike arrives in this issue and not # 20.So Spike will be in issues 18-20 for sure. |
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http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=user_review&id=5621
| Quote: | Angel & Faith #18
by Greg McElhatton, Reviewer
We've all read those series before, where when the big revelation occurs, we're told how everything fits together -- except it doesn't. Or for that matter, watched television series where by nature of there being a dozen different writers, some pieces just don't quite fit with the others. The reason I mention this phenomenon is because "Angel & Faith" #18 has just slapped onto the table its version of "This is how it all comes together." There's just one catch: it all really does come together.
Christos Gage and Rebekah Isaacs use "Angel & Faith" #18 to thoroughly explain not only what's going on with (as revealed last issue) the return of the demon Eyghon, but why Angel's always been so convinced that they could bring Giles back from the dead even though it should be impossible. In just 22 pages, they reveal it in a manner that is not only satisfying, but fun to read to boot. That's no small feat; a massive exposition dump should be, by all accounts, a dull experience. Fortunately, Gage understands that he can't just tell readers what's going on, but rather has to show it instead. "Angel & Faith" #18 dips back into the past occasionally to show us scenes playing out that led up to Eyghon's return, filling in the gaps since we last saw this demon.
Gage doesn't lose sight of the fact that a little action couldn't hurt, though, so there's also a lot going on with Angel, Faith and the rest of the Slayers' attacks against Eyghon. There's a rather dangerous limitation on who can and can't be possessed, one that manages to do so with such a mundane threshold that Gage ends up making Eyghon a much more menacing foe than previously seen. It ends up being a fun little adventure, even as things get dangerous.
As great as Gage's plotting has been, I don't want to forget Isaacs' contributions to the series, too. She's been doing a strong job here as well; not just nailing the likenesses of Angel, Faith and Giles, but also bringing to life an energetic and attractive comic. The glimpses into what a world ruled by Eyghon would look like are wonderfully apocalyptic, and the punk rock early life of Giles is as entertaining as you can imagine. Best of all, though, is how well Isaacs can sell an action scene. When Angel and Faith come running into the chamber, you can practically see them move; the trail of blood on the left tricks your mind into thinking that Angel's sword is slicing across the panel, while Faith's hair moving off to the side gives her the illusion of movement as well. It's that sort of understanding on how to make static art feel fluid that makes "Angel & Faith" look so good, and that's before you get to little moments like Faith's look of regret and hope at the reanimated Giles that will melt your heart.
It feels like "Angel & Faith" is coming close to an end, and that'll be a shame if only because of how much fun it's been. "Angel & Faith" #18 is a perfect example of that entertainment; Gage and Isaacs have turned out not just a good media tie-in comic, but a good comic, period. Its parent title might run a little hot and cold, but "Angel & Faith" has been consistently strong. If Gage and Isaacs work together on another comic once this is over, I know I'll stick around to read it, too. Another good show from this duo.
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I have Angel & Faith # 18.Part III of "Death And Consequences."
I don't know what to say.My thoughts are flying all over the place so I'll keep my comments short.I LOVED this issue.AMAZING payoff on so much stuff.
1)Why and how Angel is resurrecting Giles.
I know this is controversial but it works for me and doesn't absolve Angel of the guilt he feels which is still driving his desire or his bad judgment last season.
And even though it gives a good reason for Angel to try to bring back Giles,it doesn't mean it will work or is the best idea.
This does answer why Giles specifically might be able to be brought back and why it's worth trying.
Having Giles soul not being able to move own/trapped and being owned by Eyghon whenever he died also sort makes me wonder what happens when you die in this magic free world.I speculated and wondered earlier the season if the destruction of the seed cut off the means for souls to move on and that Giles was trapped here.But what about everyone else who dies post seed destruction.
This answer sidesteps that.It gives a good Giles unique reason why Angel is doing this specifically for Giles and nobody else but still leaves me wondering about souls post death now.
The other thing I'm wondering about is if Faith had this information from the beginning,would her concerns about bringing Giles back been more muted knowing(as Angel did) that Giles soul was dammed to Eyghon from the moment he and Ethan made a terrible choice in their youth.
I also actually wonder what Buffy and the Scoobies would think of Angel's plan to bring Giles back but with all the information presented.
Willow sort of gave he approval in the Family Reunion arc but with the added info now.Would it be strong approval now?
I really want to see Spike's reaction next month and with all the info because that might be a window into how the others could see things.
2)How Eyghon factors into the larger storyline with Giles,the loss of magic and Whistler,Pearl & Nash's plan and events last season.
This is masterfully done I think.How everything is connected.
3)What Whistler,Pearl & Nash's plan actually is.
Screams end of the season Apocalypse to me.And Angel's comment how Whistler would see that as balance.Half the planet paradise.Half of it hell really makes sense.
4)Why Angel called Spike last week in Spike # 5.
The reason Angel needs Spike's help makes total sense.
This issue was exposition heavy but IMO done in a a lively style and really gave payoffs big time.
Other little things.I really liked Nadira in this issue.Some quick thinking on her part too.Hope she makes it but i have a feeling she won't based off of RI cover for next issue.Also great to see Alasdair and hope he sticks around too.
Christos Gage Is really bringing things home as we near the end of the season.I would love to have him writing the Buffy book in season 10. |
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| Buffyversefantic wrote: | This does answer why Giles specifically might be able to be brought back and why it's worth trying.
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The other thing I'm wondering about is if Faith had this information from the beginning,would her concerns about bringing Giles back been more muted knowing(as Angel did) that Giles soul was dammed to Eyghon from the moment he and Ethan made a terrible choice in their youth. |
Actually that's the first thing I thought when I read that part. Why did Angel only now see fit to share this essential information with Faith?!
The information about Eyghon teaming up with Pearl, Nash and Whistler to bring back magic also came across to me as if Angel had known this all along, but that would be weird.
| Quote: | | This issue was exposition heavy but IMO done in a a lively style and really gave payoffs big time. |
I thought the exposition in the second half was nicely balanced with the action in the first half of the comic.
Minor nitpick: at the end of Spike #5, Angel tells him "Been trying to get a hold of you", but the current issue isn't in line with that. I suppose it's possible that Angel had been trying to phone Spike previously for totally unrelated reasons, but it still seems strange for Angel to have started their conversation like that. And how, without the bug ship, did Spike manage to arrive in London only a few hours (at most) of exposition later?? |
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| Double Dutchess wrote: | | The information about Eyghon teaming up with Pearl, Nash and Whistler to bring back magic also came across to me as if Angel had known this all along, but that would be weird. |
Ah, I see I got that wrong now. This is what Faith got from Eyghon's mind in the millisecond she was possessed by him. So it *is* in fact all new information. |
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| I liked the issue. I like Nadira as a character, but worry that she is being built up to be killed off. |
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Dark Horse May 2013 Solicitations
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/dark-horse-may-2013-solicitations.html
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By Newsarama Staff
posted: 08 February 2013
ANGEL & FAITH #22
Christos Gage (W), Rebekah Isaacs (A/Variant cover), Dan Jackson (C), and Steve Morris (Cover)
On sale May 29
FC, 32 pages
$2.99
Ongoing
Giless resurrection has been pushed to the back burner while Angel and Faith tackle Season 9s Big BadsPearl, Nash, and Whistlerwho threaten to release boundless magic over the planet. Only the strong will survive!
Executive Producer Joss Whedon.
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CBR behind Buffy S9 With Christos Gage on Angel & Faith.Preview pages for Angel & Faith # 19 are included and spoilers about the upcoming end of the season.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=43754
| Quote: | Behind Buffy Season 9: Gage on "Angel & Faith's" End Game
CBR News spoke with "Angel & Faith" writer Christos Gage, looking back on "Angel & Faith" as a whole, and catching some glimpses of what's still to come as the series enters its final arc.
Daniel Glendening, Guest Contributor
Over the course of Dark Horse Comics' "Angel & Faith," the titular characters, along with the rest of the Buffy-verse populace, have been sorting through the fallout of the events of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Season 8." At the conclusion to "Season 8," Angel, possessed by the Twilight persona, ended the life of Buffy's original Watcher, Rupert Giles, and Buffy attempted to stave off total worldly destruction by shattering the Seed of Wonder: the source of magic on Earth.
The "Season 9" arcs, an umbrella covering "Buffy the Vampire Slayer," "Angel & Faith," and the miniseries "Drusilla: Run and Catch," "Spike: A Dark Place," and "Willow: Wonderland," are largely concerned with the ramifications of these two conclusive acts. Buffy has her hands full dealing with the emergence of the mindless hordes of zompires. Angel, left in a catatonic state following his stint as Twilight, is nursed back to health by slayer Faith Lehane and subsequently vows to find a way to right his wrongs and bring Giles back to the land of the living.
Angel's plans are quickly complicated, however. Just as he prepares to attempt the resurrection, it is revealed that the final piece of Giles' soul is held by the demon Eyghon, who, with the help of Whistler, Pearl and Nash, is set on creating a new Hell on Earth with a possessed Giles at the helm of his growing army.
As part of its regular BEHIND BUFFY SEASON 9 feature, Comic Book Resources spoke with series writer Christos Gage about the book's final story arc beginning with "Angel & Faith" #21 on April 24th, and he looks back at the series so far and teases what is yet to come.
Writer Christos Gage and artist Rebekah Isaacs have sent "Angel & Faith" on a path toward redemption in his "Buffy Season 9" series#19 cover by Steve Morris
CBR News: "Angel & Faith" has been, in large part, a story about the search for redemption -- this is something that seems to define both Angel and Faith as characters. How close has either of them come to really finding that redemption in this series?
Christos Gage: I think we won't know until the season is over, and even then there is the question of what redemption means for each of them. Is Angel redeemed if he brings Giles back to life? He's still got all those other crimes he committed over the centuries. And does being redeemed in their own eyes mean being redeemed to others, or vice versa? Our last couple of arcs of the season are not just about whether our heroes will achieve their goals, but what that means for them.
In prior talks with CBR, you mentioned that father figures play out in many ways throughout the "Season 9" arc. In the past, Angel has taken on a fatherly role with Faith, shepherding her through some dark times. How would you say their relationship has shifted over this series?
I think Giles was more of a father to Faith, whereas Angel is more of a brother or friend -- both someone who takes care of her and who she takes care of. When we started out Faith was taking care of Angel, who was a wreck after he killed Giles as Twilight. She's had some rough patches this season, and Angel has helped her. You could also argue that he has caused her problems as well, by involving her in his quest and as a result causing the Slayers she was mentoring to lose trust in her. The relationship between Angel and Faith has been fluid, and by the end, will be something very different than it was when we began. Another key father relationship is that of Giles to Faith -- her realization of how much she lost when she died has informed her actions quite a bit, and she has as much at stake in the outcome as Angel.
Over the past few issues you've gotten to jump back in time and fill in some of Giles' back story, looking at his rebellious "Ripper" period. What about this time period is so defining for Giles?
It's when he made his worst mistakes -- mistakes that resulted in the death of his friends. This period also led him back to the life he'd earlier rejected, of being a Watcher, but I think the fact that he experienced it is what enabled him to be the Watcher Buffy needed, rather than the more stiff-upper-lip, rules-obsessed Watchers we saw at various times.
One thing we see a lot of in this book, and throughout the Buffy mythos, is the shifting paradigms of good and evil: Angel has flipped several times into his vampiric Angelus persona, not to mention the whole Twilight snafu, and now we're seeing a possessed Giles as commander of a zombie brigade. How does one ever know where anyone else stands?
I don't know that you can, and that's another example of the Buffy-verse taking real-life dilemmas -- can you really trust the people close to you -- and adding fantastic elements to craft a cool story. But I want to go beyond the 'so and so is possessed' paradigm -- as much fun as that is -- and use these events as an impetus for the characters to examine both each other and themselves. Is what this person is trying to do a good thing? For them, for me, for the world? I want to take that extra step and ask not just 'will Angel turn into Angelus' but also 'is Angel himself someone I should put my trust in?'
If you were forced to choose, what's been your favorite character or creature design to come from Isaacs over the course of the series? What about that design nailed it?
Thus far, I guess my favorite design has been Quor'Toth, the Old One who gave the hell dimension its name. It's just this giant, horrible thing, the size of a mountain range, with an exposed brain and spine, drooling slime, and rotting flesh that attract great flocks of birds to eat off it. I just thought it was really horrible and awesome -- exactly what I imagined an Old One would be, both in terms of power and nastiness.
What is series artist Rebekah Isaacs bringing to this final arc? Can we expect some further horrific glimpses into Eyghon's hell-on-earth?
Rebekah is bringing awesomeness. Over the course of this season I have come to realize what an amazing talent she is, not just in terms of art, but in terms of designing monsters, demons and magical creatures. So now, whenever I get the chance, I like to give her the opportunity to cut loose by just suggesting a few general guidelines: "exposed brains, tentacles, fangs, go!" I am inevitably amazed by what I get back. But what Rebekah never loses sight of is that the characters make it all work. I feel safe doing silent beats or reaction shots and I know she can nail it, which is great for a comic based on a TV show. Watching a good show, you aren't used to clunky exposition or having it explained that someone is mad or sad or is saying something that's at odds with how they truly feel -- you just get it. Truly great artists can approximate a live human being acting, and Rebekah has that rare talent.
We've seen several times in the Buffy-verse the resurrection of the dead rarely comes without a price. What makes Angel and Faith think that resurrecting Giles will be any different this time?
Well, they think they can make it work. It's an open question whether that's foolishness, arrogance, or selfish desperation; they just want him back that badly. But a new light has been shed on it with the revelation in recent issues that the biggest part of Giles' soul was the property of the demon Eyghon. So it's not like they're pulling him out of heaven, as with Buffy. If they did nothing, he remains the plaything of a horrible monster. That said, they are planning to try to return him to life, not just sent his soul to its reward, so there is most certainly risk. This will definitely be addressed very soon.
How well can we expect the plan to slay Eyghon, and free Giles from his grasp, to go?
I'm not going to drop any spoiler bombs, although I think it's safe to say no one's plans will go exactly as they would have liked!
Whistler's objective, to maintain balance between good and evil, seems to have spiraled a bit out of control. How, with their history, will Angel confront him?
It's tough for Angel because Whistler is really responsible for giving him a new lease on life (or un-death). In some ways, Whistler is in the position Angel was as Twilight last season: pursuing great power to effect a world-changing transformation that is supposed to be for a greater good, but will have significant collateral damage. And just as Angel wasn't always thinking clearly as Twilight, now Whistler is the one whose mental state seems to have been affected by the loss of magic and the resulting tip in the cosmic balance. No doubt, Angel will try to get through to Whistler's better nature just as Buffy did with him, but if that doesn't work, he's going to have some tough choices to make in terms of taking Whistler down, if that's even something he's capable of.
Spike is back from space! In returning to work alongside Angel, is he a different man than when he left?
Spike evolved in his miniseries to be a bit more self-motivated, more independent of Buffy. Does that mean he's over Buffy? No, it's not nearly that easy, but he's coming to London having established some independence and gained a bit of his swagger back. Does that mean he and Angel will go back to their dynamic of the series, or will it be different? How about Spike and Faith, who seemed to have a bit of romantic chemistry in "Buffy Season 7?" I promise that someone will get up to sexy-times in issue #20, but I won't reveal who. I will say that I love the dynamic between Spike and Angel -- they're rivals, but they're also the only ones on Earth who really understand each other. The "Angel" Season 5 episode "The Girl In Question" is, for me, aside from being very funny, a great example of their relationship in microcosm.
Their rivalry is a little bit like that of two brothers: an understanding, but also that sense that the younger feels caught in the shadow of the elder. Here, with Angel calling on Spike for help, is that relationship maturing, at all?
Maybe. Or maybe just getting more juvenile. Or both! Read issue #20 and see for yourself.
As the series reaches its conclusion, in what ways might we see "Angel and Faith" and the primary "Buffy" storyline coming together? Will we see anyone else popping up for the final showdown?
We are not going to do an outright crossover. It was briefly considered early on, but the consensus was that it would feel gimmicky, and the mere fact of Buffy and Angel seeing each other for the first time since Twilight would be such a big thing that it would derail the storylines of both books. In "Angel & Faith" we're sticking with our core casts; the explicit crossovers have already come, and tended to involve one character at a time. But the creative teams are definitely in touch with each other, so there may well be some thematic parallels.
Looking back at "Angel & Faith" as a whole, what points in the narrative stand out as definitive? Were there moments in which the characters surprised you, or which you find particularly transformative?
I always said Giles was the third most important character in the book, but even so I was surprised at how important a presence he was. Despite being dead, he informed so much. And I loved writing the flashbacks to his past. I think both Angel and Faith have matured and grown significantly over the course of the season. And Giles' Great-Aunts are a trip. I love writing them, and I love how Rebekah (and Chris Samnee, in his issue) gave them life. I can't thank Joss [Whedon] enough for sharing them with us -- he originally conceived of them to be part of the as-yet-unrealized "Ripper" TV show he was developing with the BBC.
Finally, looking forward, where might the story go beyond "Season 9?" What plans have begun to take shape in moving the Buffy-verse forward from here?
It's too early to say what comes next. We're still working it out ourselves. But I'm definitely going to be there for it!
Gage warned that the line between good and evil is constantly shifting in the Buffy-verse EXCLUSIVE: #19 art by Rebekah Isaacs
Giles' backstory has been one of the writer's favorite elements of the book EXCLUSIVE: Art by Rebekah Isaacs"
Spike returned to the series in #18 following his solo miniseries
"Angel & Faith" #19 by Christos Gage and Rebekah Isaacs goes on sale February 27.
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I have my copy of Angel & Faith # 19.The conclusion of "Death and Consequences."
I really loved this issue and this arc.The resolution of the Eyghon plot was a surprise.I thought it would continue into the final arc but thinking about it,it makes sense to wrap it here so the last arc can deal with Whistler,Pearl & Nash and actually dealing with whether Angel and Faith can and will bring Giles back.
Speaking of which,while I still doubt Giles will actually be really brought back, that made his return through Angel in this issue very poignant for me.And it was very fitting for Giles to have such a big role during the taking down of Eyghon.
I enjoyed the Angel and Spike interaction.Very reminiscent of their interaction on the show and After The Fall including their pissing contest over Buffy.I could really hear DB and JM's voices in those scenes.I think Christos Gage has been good at this with the characters overall.
This issue seemed to be the Angel and Spike issue so I'm really looking forward to next issue which I assume will focus on the Faith and Spike dynamic since Angel is catatonic.
I also liked the resolution to the slayers here to.I do hope we see more of Nadira.And I did think it was a kick ass moment when Faith told her and the other slayers that Angel was off limits to kill and if they try they'll have to go through her.
And the art was great as always from RI.
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| Sorry, Buffyversefantic. I've always quite liked this comic and haven't really minded that they are tidying up Angel's character from how he was portrayed in Season 8. I've always liked Angel, and never believed that he would have become Twilight, so any retconning or further explanations have been welcome to me. Angel, the guy we saw at the end of AtF deserves it. Still, I wish that Christos hadn't done such a demolition job on Spike for the sake of a few laughs and givivg Angel the moral high ground. This portrayal has got me as angry as Bill Willigham's. I think I'm going to hate #20. I don't mind Spike having love interests as long as it is believeable and it's built carefully. They are going to turn Spike into a tom-cat, as I suspected. |
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| Shade of Pale wrote: | | This portrayal has got me as angry as Bill Willigham's. |
I haven't got my copy of the issue yet, but my first thought on seeing some of the comments was "It sounds like Bill Willingham all over again." I'll reserve my judgement until I have actually read it myself, but I must confess I feel a bit apprehensive about it now.
Then again, as one poster on Whedonesque (I think someone we know ) pointed out, even if DH do pull a Willingham on Spike it's still nothing compared to what they did to Angel in S8 by making him Twilight. |
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| Double Dutchess wrote: | | Shade of Pale wrote: | | This portrayal has got me as angry as Bill Willigham's. |
I haven't got my copy of the issue yet, but my first thought on seeing some of the comments was "It sounds like Bill Willingham all over again." I'll reserve my judgement until I have actually read it myself, but I must confess I feel a bit apprehensive about it now.
Then again, as one poster on Whedonesque (I think someone we know ) pointed out, even if DH do pull a Willingham on Spike it's still nothing compared to what they did to Angel in S8 by making him Twilight. |
I think that that is true, but I think that by the end of this series, it will be as if Twilight didn't happen and Angel will be rehabilitated, because of what he does for Giles - either saving his life or granting him eternal rest. Spike meanwhile, will struggle to have a story for all the page time he gets and be treated as the eternal, horny, useless, bad boy. I think I'm going to write to Dark Horse and Fox and ask if Spike can go back to IDW !  Everyone else can stay and we can have Beck, George and Jeremy back. |
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