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[DarkRex]

[KingKongLovesSymphony]

Thanks! Jim is also an artist and this is a collaboration. We both care a lot about what we do and about Jurassic Park. I've already made some changes to the brachiosaurs, but you'll have to wait and see them. I also have to wonder...as the dinosaurs breed, generation after generation, will they revert further back to their original dinosaur roots? That also could explain the differences we've seen from movie to movie in some of the dinosaurs.

[DarkRex]

[KingKongLovesSymphony]

Some questions that maybe you know the answers to: The female paleontologist was looking at a prehistoric plant before her partner turned her head to see Hammond's pet full-grown brachiosaur. Do mosquitoes suck plant sap? Or are there other plant sap sucking bugs also trapped in amber? Seems possible...but does plant sap contain DNA? Actual seeds trapped in amber? Possible, so I can give a pass to that plot hole, but how did the brachiosaurs and other huge sauropods grow so big in twentyish years? Remember the mamenchisaurs in The Lost World?

IF Hammond's scientists had the secret to growing them fast, then the generations would pass quickly. And remember that they would likely be reproducing every year. And genetic manipulation is always possible. So! Who knows!

The ability to sequence DNA using some dinosaur DNA and frog and maybe bird material and make a viable dinosaur implies the ability to make what they please. Why do I say that? They would have to be able to compose sequences in theory, test them in theory, then work them in fine detail to make our wonderful JP creatures. If that is so, they would very likely to be able to tweak the DNA to make whatever they want. Period. From scratch.

This ability is, at this time, a pipe dream, in the real world. But I am willing to bet the scientific community will actually be able to bring this about in the real world, so why not postulate the possibility in Jurassic Park comics? Jim and I will be sticking as close to canon as possible, so JP dinosaurs will be the limit.

But my mind, such as it is, often wanders the corridors and concert halls of creativity and insanity. Remember King Kong? Kong's island in both movies (I do not count the middle one)? It is explained as a land where ancient animals survived the thousands of millennia since their extinction.


The original Kong's island had prehistoric mammals as well. And the remains of a fairly advanced civilization were to be seen in both franchises. This implies to me that the animals were created by an advanced genetic science and things kind of got out of hand, as in Rise of the Planet of the Apes.

Ingen's technology could lead to just such a scenario. Or their rival might try out some new theories...
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[DarkRex]

[KingKongLovesSymphony]

Been researching the movies. Movie three's brachiosaurs are very different from the first one. As are the raptors. Not only are there color differences in the brachiosaurs, but the heads of the raptors are very different. This is not counting the new feathers. The brachiosaurs' bodies are different too. Artistic license? Sure, why not! Easily explained by the theory that the dinosaurs are evolving back to their old forms, more birdlike. I know the producers made the decision to change the raptors due to new feather findings about that kind of dinosaur. No big deal.

As I said, explanations are easily come by, but the producers DID make a mistake. Alan Grant had a nightmare on the plane. In it, there was a raptor speaking to him. Cool scene....but the raptor was the new kind, not the kind he would have been familiar with. Since Isla Sorna is kept isolated, we can assume there have been no photo expeditions taking pics Grant would have seen. WHY was the raptor in his dream the new kind?

SO! Since even the creators of said movies can make errors and change the body forms so much, I think I can make some changes too.

I finally got a peek at John Byrne's Pteranodons....scarcely accurate at all. Yes, they're Pteranodons, but not what we've seen in the two movies they appeared in. Not the ones on the pages I saw.
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[DarkRex]

The plane scene is indeed just a mistake. Stan Winston I think even said so in the commentary of the film- saying something like "Oops, he shouldn't even know what these ones look like yet," or something along those lines.
That indicates that either a.) there are two species of raptor b.) they evolved into a new species (I personally tend to lean more on A, but either one could be explained really.)
Yes, the skulls are very different indeed.




As for the Brachs it goes into the fact I think that Brachs are found on several different continents (so there are at least a few different species of brachs, which InGen could possibly have two different kinds.) But they are different, indeed. Not just in color but in weight as well and bulk. It is interesting.


Byrne's pteros were based off of Papo's pteranodons:


Papo's dinosaur figures differ slightly sometimes from Jurassic Park color schemes but are probably some of the BEST JP look alike figures ever made.
The teeth added in to this ptero figure is such a nice detail. TRUE, REAL pteros did not have them (like the one species of Ptero seen in TLW did not have them) but the JP3 pteros DID have teeth. This is another supporting idea to the theory that InGen has two species of at least a few kinds of dinosaurs. The two kind of pteros seen between TLW and JP3 are just too vastly different to have evolved, and plus the TLW version is truer to what real pteranodons were, they wouldn't evolve to have teeth, because that species of pterosaur never did!
This means that InGen had to have been messing around with the DNA, much like they were obviously doing with the dilophosaurs in Jurassic Park and they had a few creatures come up with an anomaly. Like dilophosaurs that spit venom, toothy pteranodons, hyper intelligent packs of raptors in JP3, (and in the novels at least you have Carnotaurus' that can disappear like chameleons.)

JP3 Ptero: http://jplegacy.org/jurassicpark3/ffissue5/2.JPG

TLW Ptero: http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111103233706/jurassicpark/images/0/0d/JPTLWPteranodon.png

That's what you get when you mess with mother nature I guess!

Pteranodon is also another species that we know in the paleo record we have several species of, and it appears that that actually intended for both to be in TLW originally as well:

http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/5736/8632902_1.jpg?v=8CE70FDFAF1B540

This image is of original art work done for TLW, or a Pteranodon sternbegi. Notice the difference between the crest of this one between that of the one used in the film. The film one is a Pteranodon longiceps

[KingKongLovesSymphony]

Yes, Papo makes some excellent dinosaur models. Great pics and thanks for posting them. I hope to be posting a few WIP'S here very soon. Hope you like them....
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[DarkRex]

I look forward to it!

[JimTN]

Hi DarkRex -- That last pteranodon pic you posted was so LARGE that it has made the entire page extremely wide and really hard for people to read -- could you edit/remove it and post a smaller one? Thanks!

[KingKongLovesSymphony]

[DarkRex]