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| Throttledbot wrote: | | lowmanx wrote: | Speaking of Prowl, anyone else wondering how he got fixed up so quickly? Blacked-out cameras in his quarters. Disappears when he's severely damaged. Turns up pretty soon after sporting brand new duds and all shiny and new.
Pretender tech perhaps? |
I wondered about this. It looks like a whole new body to me. Spark transplant maybe? |
Life Model Decoys.
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| DanielW wrote: | | Throttledbot wrote: | | lowmanx wrote: | Speaking of Prowl, anyone else wondering how he got fixed up so quickly? Blacked-out cameras in his quarters. Disappears when he's severely damaged. Turns up pretty soon after sporting brand new duds and all shiny and new.
Pretender tech perhaps? |
I wondered about this. It looks like a whole new body to me. Spark transplant maybe? |
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For me the best part of this was Jazz and Blurr's lock-in. I wonder how long they'll stay in there for? Reminds me a lot of the Winchester in Shawn of the Dead. Shame Brawn isn't in there.
How about a miniseries in which Sky-Byte and the gang stay in Maccadam's for 4 million years, singing drinking songs and playing darts? I think that's how long Cheers lasted. |
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Maybe it wasn't ACTUALLY Prowl that got exploded on, but one of another bot of his body-types dressed up to look like him. Parent Trap-style.
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| dyemooch wrote: | | RaggaeTron wrote: | Speaking of the bar scene, what is it with Sky-Byte always being in shark mode when he's performing?  |
Fish could be somefin he's doing on porpoise due to preference, or just for the halibut. |
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| polystyleneman wrote: | | dyemooch wrote: | | RaggaeTron wrote: | | Speaking of the bar scene, what is it with Sky-Byte always being in shark mode when he's performing? |
Fish could be somefin he's doing on porpoise due to preference, or just for the halibut. |
Don't carp on him, it cod be he sings sole while Jazz slams on the bass. They'd sign a duet if Jazz could carry a tuna. |
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| General Tekno wrote: | | Kingoji wrote: | I've enjoyed this issue probably the most of the whole RiD run. This feels like we're finally building up to some kind of resolution to some of the events.
That's been my biggest beef with RiD if I'm honest; there has been a lot of things happen on an issue-to-issue basis, but no real satisfaction to them. Events, one after the other, that are either not tied up or seemingly dropped altogether. Hopefully we'll shortly be seeing the how and why of a lot of things brought back to the fore.
for me, it seems like the one unifying discretion in this book (and I'm certain it's deliberate) is character behavior. Prowl going off the rails, Bumblebee becoming more ruthless, Bombshell losing his mind, even Sideswipe becoming a massive bully-boy dick when the last real characterization he had showed him making an impassioned speech on the futility of conflict.
We know that something in the wilderness affects behaviour on a far more dramatic scale, maybe the above discrepancies are also a result of this force, only it's so gradual or is happening to some who are usually in the background that no-one has noticed or suspected it?
The characters in this issue have pointed out that it seems deliberate, the particular bots that have been taken out. Both Autobots and Decepticons are involved equally.
So maybe a NAIL is behind it? Tappet and Zetca were introduced quite predominantly to have simply vanished out of events, don't you think? And given that Zetca (originally) transforms into an engine, or a generator... hm.
I have one complaint with this issue, and it's the same one as I've had for a long time; the killing off of anyone who came later than G1. I was more thrilled to see Staxx than pretty much anyone else in this series so far, but he's G2 so of course he's fodder. |
Tappet hasn't really vanished though. He still makes regular crowd scene appearances. |
So does Zetca. He's in the bar in this issue.
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| Thunderwing wrote: | | ultramagnus1 wrote: | | In fairness turning Prowl into a bad guy of sorts is something we kinda saw a mile off in fairness. At least it kinda looked that way. |
True, it's been coming since Barber's been writing him.
I just prefer my Prowl to be dicey, and morally-ambiguous, and in the shadows. |
I prefer my Prowl to be a bastard, but still a hero. Since the beginning this series has taken him down a morally compromising road and I'm worried he may be past the point of no return.
I think Ironhide's brain being F-disked in the previous ongoing volume really hurt him as a character. With so little memory of his life, he's lost that gruff old war-weariness that made him such a grumpy but lovable warhorse. And I love Bumblebee but he's not a leader or a politician and this series is showing how unqualified he is for the job even more than the old ongoing series did.
Wheeljack, on the other hand, is doing quite well in this series, and I'm liking him more and more with each issue.
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| Torpedo wrote: | | And I love Bumblebee but he's not a leader or a politician and this series is showing how unqualified he is for the job even more than the old ongoing series did. |
I'm thinking that's kind of the point.
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| Sockie wrote: | | Torpedo wrote: | | And I love Bumblebee but he's not a leader or a politician and this series is showing how unqualified he is for the job even more than the old ongoing series did. |
I'm thinking that's kind of the point. |
That's very possible, even probable. By depicting Bumblebee clearly out of his depth, it raises the stakes and creates an even more desperate situation for the fledgling government. But... we're not getting anything to balance his inadequacy. It's making him look weak and petulant, and those aren't endearing qualities. If the series is going to show how bad he is at bringing Autobots, Decepticons and NAILs together, I would like it to also show how good he is at something else. Like befriending humans.
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Agree with Torpedo.
The problem is that in one sense, Bumblebee is supposed to be a flawed leader, and in another sense, we're supposed to feel that the situation he's been lumped with is basically an ungovernable pressure cooker, but it's impossible to judge where one ends and another begins. It would nice to get a real sense of what aspects of Bumblebee's leadership are the best anyone would be able to do in the circumstances, and which are making things worse.
We don't really know because we haven't actually seen him make that many important decisions, and when we do, it's hard to understand what thinking is going on. For example, taking out the Decepticon inhibitor chips - why did no one suggest a compromise, or a trial run with some of the least dangerous Decepticons?
Why has no one but no one been arrested for war crimes? I mean, it does make Prowl's shady campaign look even sillier when there's a very, very good argument for the Decepticons' ringleaders to be already in jail while the rest are basically given a warning.
I know the WW2 comparisons are always a bit flimsy, but imagine if we'd rolled up in Germany and said, "Obv. we can't arrest the entire German population, or all their military, because that would be oppressive. So I guess, in the spirit of treating them all like one conglomerate mass, that means we have to let the leaders of the Nazi party go free as well."
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I'm wondering right now if all of this could be leading to a situation for Prowl where Megatron, Starscream, Metalhawk and Bubmlbee are all unsuitable for leadership - either by injury, death, experience, bad decisions and HE is in a spot where it COULD/SHOULD/MAY fall to him (maybe in his own mind) to lead the path for peace. However, look at his methods!
I recall his spotlight and perspective that he doesn't want to lead, but I wonder if this could be where we're headed...
I also agree that Wheeljack is a real standout in this series. I'm still enjoying reading Bumblebee but wish he wasn't so reactive and was more proactive about improving conditions for all on Cybertron. But I think that fits more with Metalhawk.
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This was my favourite RiD issue bar the annual. Its really building up momentum now. Looking forward to the talk between Megs and SS. Looking forward to the fight at Blurs bar and of course looking forward to Prowl going all punisher on the cons.
Loved the art again this issue and Wheeljack is fast emerging as one of my fav RiD characters.
Id give the issue a C+
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| ultramagnus1 wrote: | This was my favourite RiD issue bar the annual. Its really building up momentum now. Looking forward to the talk between Megs and SS. Looking forward to the fight at Blurs bar and of course looking forward to Prowl going all punisher on the cons.
Loved the art again this issue and Wheeljack is fast emerging as one of my fav RiD characters.
Id give the issue a C+ |
It was your favorite issue, and you loved the annual, and you give it a C+? |
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I don't think he understands how lettered grading systems work.
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