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| fluff wrote: | | I screamed. Loudly. Did -not- see that coming |
Agreed,it's a good twist.
Second advanced Angel & Faith # 16 review.
http://comicsgrinder.com/2012/11/27/angel-and-faith-16-review/
| Quote: | November 27, 2012
ANGEL AND FAITH #16 Review
“Angel and Faith #16″ starts the new four-part arc, “Death and Consequences.” There’s a scene early on that bodes well, in its lightheartedness, for this new story by Christos Gage: Angel has just lobbed a bomb at a big ugly demon when he yells out, “Fire in the whole!” Faith just looks at him, the two are at a safe distance and can afford a quick little quip between them. “I always thought that sounded dirty,” she says, “Seriously, if I worked demolitions, I’d be giggling like a twelve-year-old every time I said it.” Angel doesn’t miss a beat and replies, “If you worked demolitions, I’d be running for my life.” And, with that, Angel, like Indiana Jones, has managed to run off with another relic by the skin of his teeth, and Faith’s, by the way! Ah, one step closer to having all the mad ingredients needed to bring back to life a much beloved mentor, one Rupert Giles.
No one seems to bothering to ask if it’s worth it anymore. That was Faith’s job. All that appears to remain is one last part of the Giles soul to start some serious conjuring. But could it really be all that simple? No, no, not by a long shot. Hey, Faith finds herself imagining a whole conversation with Giles which leaves her less than motivated. Of course, there’s always drawbacks along the way and this story provides a whopper of a problem. And then there’s Faith’s nemesis, Nadira, and her Slayer posse, who don’t know when to stop holding Faith accountable for everything that has gone wrong in their lives. What animosity! Rebekah Issacs seems to enjoy drawing Nadira’s rage and her crew’s put-upon expressions. Poor Faith. But here’s the kicker: Nadira’s plans collide directly with Angel’s plans! Angel is not the only one with a beloved soul to resurrect.
Angel and Faith may be back in London and appear closer than ever to achieving Angel’s dream of bringing back Giles but there is hardly any guarantee that things will go Angel’s way. Nadira, in all her beautiful rage, makes a case that Angel is delusional but then can’t see how even more futile her dream is of bringing back to life a mere mortal. The anguish and determination coming from Nadira is quite palpable. It brings Faith a few notches back to her skepticism. But that’s not all. The twist at the end will surprise even the most jaded reader. It is a most satisfying twist and, just like the wry remarks between Angel and Faith at the start, bodes very well for us readers.
“Angel and Faith #16″ releases November 28. Visit our friends at Dark Horse Comics.
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| This issue had a strong intensity that I very much appreciated. I was really disappointed with the Quo'rtoth arc, but it's good to see A&F back on track.Rebecca did an excellent job with the art. You could feel the pain of Angel, Faith and Nadira. It's easily the best of the four comics. I like the Spike series next best, only because it is Spike, but to be honest, I've been slightly underwhelmed by it. It just feels too lightweight. |
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Finally got my copy of Angel & Faith # 16,Part I "Death And Consequences."I think most people have hit the major things in the issue so I'll keep it short.Really enjoyed the issue.
It feels like this arc is continuing the payoffs started last issue with the Whistler and Pearl & Nash reveals.We finally got a showdown between Angel & Faith and Nadira.Also loved the Giles flashback and it speaking to Faith's current situation.
And what can be said about the surprise ending with Giles that hasn't been said.I think it might be Ethan in Giles body but we also know Ehygon is going to factor into this arc so maybe it is inhabiting Giles.
So another great issue iMO
Here's Karios summary/review of the issue.
http://perpetual.livejournal.com/127179.html
| Quote: | A&F #16, Summary and Review
Starts with the preview pages. Angel and Faith are in Peru, fighting some lizardy demons who keep regenerating until they're burned to ash by Angel's grenade. Demons dead, they leave with a MacGuffin, which Faith helpfully tells us is a McGuffin. It's a crown that the lizards were using to regenerate, and they test it by putting it onto a decayed corpse. Faith objects to this, but it works - the corpse is now freshly dead. Angel says that they're almost ready with a soul to reinsert into Giles' body, and that he's going to leave the crown with Alasdair for study. The next step is to dig up the body.
On the plane ride home, Angel sleeps and Faith looks out the window and remembers a conversation she had with Giles. (I'm guessing this is a memory rather than Faith imagining it, due to the background of Slayers working out on the countryside.) Giles is telling an irate Faith that her loyalty toward the people she's attached to is extreme, "to the point that you place their interests above your own. Even when it causes you harm." With their new project of helping problem Slayers, he worries that those who can't be helped will drag her down into their own dysfunction. Faith summarizes the conversation as him telling her to watch her ass, and asks if they're cool. Back in the present, she remembers him smiling as he replies, "Yes. We are most definitely cool," and a tear falls.
Page turn, they're back in London and digging up Giles. When they get the coffin out, Angel tells Faith she doesn't have to look, but she does, and he opens it up. It's empty. Page turn, they're at home talking to the aunts, who first blame Angel for "losing" their nephew and then admit that they might know a lot of people who would be involved in something like a grave robbery. As Faith is telling them to make a list, there's a loud knock at the door, and she looks through the peephole and sees Nadira and a crowd of other Slayers, looking Angry. Angel says he's going to leave by the roof, but he stops when Nadira yells through the door that she knows Angel is there.
Faith, shocked, opens the door and confronts Nadira, saying it's not her business. Nadira replies that Faith made it her business by lying about it, and brings up what Angel as Twilight did to her friends. She interrupts Faith's defense, that Twilight wasn't Angel, by saying that she's not here about that but about one dead Slayer. She steps back to reveal that they have a body on a stretcher with them. They all come in, and the Fairweather sisters leave to give them space.
The dead Slayer was killed by Drusilla, which Nadira blames on Angel and Faith because she knows they fought her and thinks they should have been able to win - and also because she knows Angel sired Drusilla. Another Slayer cuts into the rant to remind Nadira that they're here for the dead girl, Marianne. She and Faith talk about what a kind, giving person she was, and then Nadira points to Angel and insists that he's going to bring her back. She knows about the plan to resurrect Giles, and that they're close to success. She says that Marianne deserves to be revived instead, that even Giles would agree, and that she'll kill both Angel and Faith if they don't comply.
Angel asks Nadira about whether Marianne was in any way involved with magic in her life, and when the answer is no, he says he can't help and starts to explain why. She knocks him down with a punch, saying he's a liar and that since the Seed was destroyed, no one's soul can move on. Angel disagrees - "I'm pretty sure it doesn't work that way. Death is a natural process. I don't know the specifics, but souls still go where they belong when someone dies." Nadira holds a stake to his chest and says he's just saying what he wants to be true, and that if he can't or won't bring Marianne back, this can only go one way. Another Slayer stops her, saying she got a text from a ghoul and that Plan B's a go. They have to move fast, so Nadira backs off from Angel and says he's got some time to come up with an answer. Before she leaves, though, she informs Faith that they want nothing more to do with her.
When they're alone, Angel starts to touch Faith's shoulder. She tells him not to, and he turns away, both of them in their own pain.
The next page follows the group of Slayers with Marianne's body to a mansion in Guilford, guarded by two big men in suits. They know who she is and let her in, but show no reaction to her implied threat or anything else as they walk the group through the lavish halls and into a sitting room. They're welcomed by someone sitting in an armchair, whose face we can't see. He thanks them for coming and offers them tea, which Nadira angrily rejects. She gets them straight to the point - they brought their dead friend, and they heard he knows something about resurrecting the dead.
On the last page, the angle spins around so we see the speaker. It's Giles, smiling and holding a steaming cup of tea and even touching his glasses. "Why, yes..." he says, "...You might say I have some experience in that area."
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GUYS LET'S SHARE SOME BUFFY COMIC MEMORIES. Remember Twilightgate? The big surprise got spoiled and in the issue in which it was supposed to be revealed for the first time, Scott Allie kicked off the lettercol with an abashed "Uh...didn't see that coming...did you...?" Punchline? This time the lettercol started with, "Did you see that coming...?"
And nobody did! Except those of us who read the spoilers yesterday. I think it's about time to break myself of that habit. I always forget that it makes a difference when it's a good comic.
Possibilities, in the order in which I think of them:
That's not Giles.
-It's Ethan.
---Ethan didn't die at the beginning of Season 8.
-----Or he did, but his soul got trapped in magical items, and Ripper's body was easier for him to revive than his own. (Didn't his head get blown off?)
-------He performed this stunt without a body. This is beginning to sound unlikely.
---------Or he had help!
---Ethan's got no better reason than chaos, as usual. Boring!
-----Or he does, which brings up important questions about Why Giles.
-It's some random evil thing. Booo-ring!
It's Giles, but he's changed.
-He's evil now, bummer.
---He didn't bring himself back.
-----Or he did, but didn't understand what would happen.
It's the real Giles.
-He's got a plan.
---Which apparently involves Nadira, or how would she find him? Actually, this one's true whether or not it's the real Giles.
-----And he's got a rep for resurrection, so he's done this on more than his own body.
-------Sounds more like Ethan than Giles, huh?
-----He's living in apparent safety and comfort, so he's in control of his situation.
-------Also in wealth and shady dealings, so he's apparently indulging himself in a very un-Gileslike manner.
---------Or wealth and shady dealings are consequences of his master plan.
-----------In which case you wouldn't think he'd look quite so chill about it.
What I really want to know is who else knew about this. The automatic answer is nobody, but what kind of light would it cast on Buffy's story if she was in on it? No wonder Giles is barely getting a mention - she misses him, but she knows he isn't gone for good. And Xander's in on it, though I fail to understand why that's causing him to worry more about Dawn. Maybe Giles has been protecting her from dissipating, somehow?
Doesn't seem possible that Angel was in on anything, unless it was so important for him to hide it from Faith that he fought demons in Peru and dug up a grave just so he could pretend to be shocked that it was empty. But here's an unfinished sentence that sounds like it probably matters: "And even with that, there's one important thing that makes Giles different from anyone else. That kept his soul from moving on when he--" I'm pretty sure we haven't heard about this before. Add it to Angel's beliefs about how the end of magic hasn't disrupted the natural life cycle (and honestly I'm totally ready to just take his word for it, because no other explanation will make me happy), and I think I can adjust my old theory a little. Angel is indeed trying to resurrect Giles, but it's purely for the purpose of letting his soul move on. I'm not sure why he needs a body for that, but damn. If you knew your dead friend was trapped in nine objects...or was it seven...
Another line I hope is more significant than it looks is, "As one who's worked with Slayers for...well, the exact amount of time isn't relevant..." Okay, this could just be Giles not wanting to discuss his age. But didn't we always assume that Buffy was his first Slayer? That's not a hard number of years to calculate, and it doesn't say anything about his age. Does he not want to talk about Buffy's predecessors? Why?
And, damn. I just realized I was the opposite of right in my summary. The Slayers in the background in the dream scene mean it's not a memory; Giles wasn't around when Faith started that project. Okay, I'm still not feeling like it's pure imagination. Faith couldn't do Giles' voice that well. Memory on top of different memory? Literal dream? Projection from the mind of whatever version of Giles is still out there? Sure doesn't seem like an evil one. He's right about the way Faith operates, and the danger of her being pulled into Angel's or Nadira's downward spiral is real.
This really isn't a review, but I think speculation is more fun this time. Just for starters, we apparently have someone in play right now who can put a soul back into a fresh corpse. We also have someone who can turn vampires into fresh corpses. These guys should get together, no?
Keep talking, I'm sure I have more to say on this... |
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Angel & Faith # 17 preview pages.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=14472
| Quote: | EXCLUSIVE PREVIEW: Gage & Isaacs' "Angel & Faith" #17
Dark Horse Comics' Buffyverse saga continues in Christos Gage and Rebekah Isaacs' "Angel & Faith" #17. CBR has an exclusive preview of the December 19-hitting issue.
Longtime nemesis Ethan Rayne has set the final piece of Giles’s soul practically in Angel’s lap. To complicate things further, the loss of a Slayer has sent Nadira and her group into the fray with their sights set on Angel now more than ever!
[img]http://www.comicbookresources.com/assets/images/preview/6e484fdi14472/prv14472_pg1.jpg[img]
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Christos Gage podcast interview.
http://www.theouthousers.com/index.php/podcasts/119475-why-i-love-comics-113-with-christos-gage.html
Highlights
Most of the Angel & Faith stuff is at the front of the interview.At the end of the hour long interview is another little bit.The middle section is about his Marvel work.
1)Talks about how Joss wanted to go back to character based stories like the shows in season 9 versus big and cosmic in season 8.
2)After signing onto season 9,Gage watched all the episodes(I assume both series).
3)Loved writing Harmony in issue 5.
4)Gage believes he was approached by Scott Allie for season 9 at the C2E2 con in 2010,.
5)People seem to really like Angel & Faith.It got nominated for a Harvey award and is doing well.The Buffy series still outsells it and Gage would love for it to sell as well as Buffy but Buffy is obviously the bigger of the two in terms of name recognition.It would be cool if the people reading the one would read the other.You don't need to read one to follow the other but he thinks people who enjoy one would enjoy the other.But Dark Horse is happy with how it's doing.The fans have been really wonderful.
6)The planning for the series is that they know where they are starting and where it's going to end and here are some points we know we want to hit along the way.And then you can fill in the specific details and how they happen along the way as you go.So there is room to do things.For example Spike is showing up in upcoming issues.That was something they thought of along the way.Willow coming over was planned from the beginning.The Spike thing came later.You want a basic structure but you don't want to lock yourselves in case things change and you get new ideas.As for Spike crossing over,it had to do with Spike having his own miniseries which happened part of the way through and there was a opportunity to bring him over after that.There is a spine/road map of how you get there but the details change as inspiration strikes.
7)Gage talks about working with his fellow Marvel colleagues writing the Spike and Willow miniseries and how the comic medium is a small world.
8)Talks about writing Giles's past.There were hints on the show and Gage is fleshing it out and filling the details.Joss is approving everything.Talks about the Giles/Wesley father story and how Joss stepped in.
9)Was warned about the rabid Whedon fandom but everybody has been terrific and nice.
10)Gage read all the IDW After The Fall stuff which was based off of Joss's original ideas for Angel season 6.He's read some of the stuff that followed After the Fall but not all of it.Basically the approach they are taking with the IDW stuff is they're not contradicting it but at the same token for people who watched the shows they wanted to be very clear-here's season 8.here's season 9 and these are the books that are officially part of that.Official canon.And there is a whole bunch of other stuff that are enjoyable stories but not necessarily canon.Some of the IDW stuff,some of the Dark Horse stuff that's not part of season 8-9.So it's not like that stuff is officially contradicted but at the same time it's not the type of stuff we want people to look at and feel they have to read all of this.It's there if they want it.The thinking behind it is not to overwhelm people.You start with the show and here's where the story continues.It's certainly no disrespect to the work done by the IDW books or the Dark Horse books not a part of seasons 8-9.
11)Connor is a fun character to write.
12)Talks about writing the upcoming Angel/Spike relationship.Gage loves their relationship.It's like a great buddy comedy.He was psyched to have the opportunity to bring Spike into the book because he just loves their chemistry together.
13)At the end of the interview,Gage confirms he will be back for season 10 in the Buffyverse in some capacity definitely.They said they want him back and he definitely wanted to come back. |
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The Angel & Faith # 20 solicitation.
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/dark-horse-march-2013-solicitations.html
| Quote: | ANGEL & FAITH #20
Christos Gage (W), Rebekah Isaacs (A/Variant cover), Dan Jackson (C), and Steve Morris (Cover)
On sale Mar 27
FC, 32 pages
$2.99
Ongoing
Angel is ridiculously close to his goal of resurrecting Giles—when he's suddenly sidetracked, forcing an unlikely partnership between Faith and Spike. Tensions run high as Slayer and vampire hit the mean streets of London . . .
• Leads directly into the final arc!
• Spike! Center stage!
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The title of this issue,"Spike And Faith" according to Christos Gage on twitter and it's a one-off issue.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Christosgage/status/279000135474753537
| Quote: | Christos Gage
@Christosgage
@SlayAliveForum Sorry, someone else asked too and I forgot to say. The title of Angel & Faith #20 is "Spike And Faith".
SlayAlive @SlayAliveForum 59m
@Christosgage Thanks, sir. One-shot, I'm assuming?
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@SlayAliveForum Yes
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First advanced Angel & Faith # 17 review.
http://comicsgrinder.com/2012/12/15/angel-and-faith-17-review/
| Quote: | December 15, 2012
ANGEL AND FAITH #17 Review
“Angel and Faith #17″stays true to Buffy canon with the story about Ethan Rayne and Giles Rupert, known in his youth as “Ripper.” We begin with a flashback to ’70s Soho, London, as a bunch of punks into the occult pursue the ultimate high, acting as host to the demon, Eyghon. We see Ethan tattooing Eyghon’s mark into a girl’s arm. We see as one member of the group, Randal, is consumed by Eyghon. The little demon game is not working out at all. This leads to the big bust up between Ethan and Giles, one turning to chaos, the other turning to order with their fates forever intertwined.
Part Two of “Death and Consequences” reveals more and more of an exquisitely plotted tale. True to its title, we are seeing what happens to those to dare play around with death. Bringing the dead back to life has got to rank very high in the most horrific of quests. While the bereaved may be blind to it, the idea wreaks of something so unnatural. How could it ever work out? Even if a resurrection were possible, wouldn’t you always wonder if what you got was the same as the original? Well, without getting into matters of a religous nature, the whole concept, ironically, smacks of something, how should I put it…unholy! Fascinating stuff, when you start to think about it. Here is Angel determined to bring his friend and mentor, Rupert Giles, back to life. And what if he should succeed??
You know, we ended the last issue with such a tantalizing situation. Nadira, the ultimate surly Slayer, and her crew of Slayers, which she highjacked away from Faith, is even more bound and determined to bring her friend, Marianne, back to life. So, after one last plea for help from Angel, she and her gang march off, in great desperation, to a most foul source. When they arrive at this mansion in Guildford, they are welcomed by someone with a striking resemblance to Rupert Giles! We also know, from the last issue, that the body of Rupert Giles was stolen. So, we’ve got a reanimated corpse walking around and it claims it can help Nadira with her problem. Quite a problem.
Back at the ranch, or other mansion, I shoud say, Faith’s London home: Faith is pretty pissed off to see all this animosity coming from Nadira and her girls. She feels betrayed and just plain stomped upon. Come to think of it, she can blame Angel! Faith feels a need to go over all that she’s sacrificed for Angel’s quest to bring Giles back from the dead. Just like any person who feels used in a relationship, Faith says that she has seen her own purpose in life fade away in favor of helping Angel. It’s a solid moment in a very sturdy comic. After that dust up, hell’s bells, Angel is more fired up than ever to get it right. They will bring Rupert Giles back to life even if it kills them!
What a piece of work. All thank yous to the wrting talent of Christos Gage and the artistic talent of Rebekah Isaacs. This comic remains inspired, looking out for all the details, and even asking the big philosophical questions in the bargain!
“Angel and Faith #17″ comes out December 19. Visit our friends at Dark Horse Comics.
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Another Angel & Faith # 17 review.
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/12/18/tuesday-review-angel-and-faith-17/
| Quote: | Tuesday Review: Angel And Faith #17
Posted on December 18, 2012 by Rich Johnston
Tom Huxley writes;
A comic that opens with an obvious allegory for high risk drug usage may seem like an unwelcoming entry point for someone who has never successfully smoked a single cigarette (I tried – just once – and choked), but I’m someone who likes to see certain things through, particularly when they don’t involve inhaling. And, fortunately for their dead friend, so are Angel and Faith in their mad quest to bring him back to life.
The other-worldly excursion of the last few months seemed a strange turn for a line that was supposedly getting “back to basics” after the fantastical Buffy Season Eight – I don’t think there has ever before been a storyline in the Buffyverse that took place primarily in a dark demon dimension – alienating in its change-up of the cast as well as its setting (although if superstitious speculation is anything to go by, after this weekend the world we live in might end up looking like Quor’Toth). With this “Death and Consequences” arc, this series is back into the demon detective mode it excels at.
In spite of being definitively dead, everybody’s favourite Watcher Giles has returned to what I consider the third lead role of this series, with his tales being told through flashbacks and recollections – much in the mould of Six Feet Under or Desperate Housewives, he’s more prominent in this book than he ever was when he was alive. This time the clock has been wound back to the most infamous period of his past, his wild teenage “Ripper” years. Artist Rebekah Isaacs, who doesn’t get enough credit for her superior work rendering actor likenesses as convincing comic book characters, draws the character as young, sexy, and recognisably Anthony Stewart Head.
If you read the previous issue, you might think its surprising twists and turns in the series’ overarching plot to resurrect Giles were enough for one story arc, but there’s bigger and more surprising ones here. I don’t know if it’s writer Christos Gage’s own idea, or from Whedon’s guidance (as were Giles’ horrible rejuvenated aunts, modelled after Anthony Head’s own daughters, who delightfully return this issue) but this issue has the most disturbing act I’ve ever seen in the Buffyverse, and it works both on a surface visceral level as well as a personal one rooted in established character and story.
Gage takes a highly obscure (and in my opinion, lame) element from one episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer – so obscure and lame that even the hardcore fan might struggle to recognise it on first glance, so get Google at the ready – and transforms it into an unforgettable one. In fact it works so well here – cleverly arranged and visually striking – that I can’t help but wonder if it was better suited to the printed page than the screen in the first place.
I’d definitely recommend picking up this issue and the one preceding it – this book is on a roll and I can’t wait to see where it goes next.
Angel and Faith issue 17 is available from Wednesday at all good comics selling establishments. Thanks to Dark Horse for the advance look.
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Some spoilers from the issue.According to zianna at buffyforums,it is Eyegon animating Giles corpse as some have speculated.
More from Zianna
http://www.buffyforums.net/forums/showthread.php?t=19135
| Quote: | No, as far as I remember, there is no explanation of why or how he's alive.
But he is able to animate multiple bodies at the same time, together with people who have felt unconscious.
Now that I think about it, there was something in a flashback, they were trying to get rid of him and he said that he'll be back because they have his mark now and they belong to him, body and soul (young Giles and his friends).
So the last part of the soul that Angel needs is the one that Eyegon has, he wasn't surprised that he is alive, he just didn't know where to find him, until they found out that Ethan is alive, which can't be happening because he died last season. So they searched for properties belonging to Ethan, and they are heading there (Angel and Faith).
The dead slayer comes back to life, but of course it's not her.
Last panel gives us Eyegon and also Ethan with a bullet in his head.
So, Giles and Ethan belong to the demon, body and soul.
As for how the demon is alive, there is no explanation in this issue.
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I have Angel & Faith # 17,"Death and Consequences Part II of IV."
I thought this was a strong issue overall.The Giles alive reveal is pretty much what was speculated on.Eyghon animating Giles's corpse.But it was very freaky knowing what's inside Giles's body especially the scene where Gilesghon shows off his broken neck,
Eyghon is also animating Ethan's corpse thus explaining the Steve Morris cover.Eyghon is basically possessing as many bodies as he can now including Nadira's slayer friend.Props to Nadira for asking questions and being suspicious.Unfortunately too late.This issue gave her more personality than just angry and troubled.So great to see that.
Also loved the Ripper flashback and how that sets up what's going on in the present.
Faith's blowup at Angel has been building all season.It wasn't a question of if it would happen but when.And Angel totally owns that and realizes that he owes her now too and will do whatever she asks.I'll admit I was surprised initially that what she wants is for Angel to finish the job of bringing Giles back.I thought she would want him to drop the Giles resurrection plan.But thinking about it in retrospect,I can understand why she wants Angel to finish his plan.
1)Faith invested so much in this.She lost the respect of her slayers and this has taken a toll on her so understandably she wants Angel to finish it so everything she invested and lost won't be for nothing.
2)Whether it's smart or not.Whether it's too dangerous,Faith wants Giles back too and if there is a chance,she'll take it.
So in retrospect,I think I get why the only thing Faith wants from Angel now to pay her back is this.I do think Angel & Faith will be going there separate ways at the end of the season and we'll have a different second monthly in season 10
Even though it was exposition,I really enjoyed the scenes of Angel,Faith and Giles's aunts gathering the info of where Giles's body is and who/what is behind it.It was written lively IMO.
Of course Eyghon has the last piece of Giles's soul.
Also liked the little bit of Angel and Faith realizing it's Eyghon and the Aunts having no idea what they're talking about.
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Shade of Pale
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| I enjoyed this issue and the overall plot of this series has me interested in what happens next - something that the other three comics in Season 9 haven't really achieved yet. |
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Buffyversefantic
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Tweet from Christos Gage.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Christosgage/status/287698664149880832
| Quote: | Christos Gage
@Christosgage
ANGEL & FAITH #22 is all character drama. To make up for it, #23 is balls to the wall action.
11:14 p.m. Sat, Jan 5
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Season 9 Solicitations and covers for April 2013
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=43054
| Quote: | EXCLUSIVE: Dark Horse Advance Solicits for April, 2013
Dark Horse has provided CBR News with an exclusive first look at select April solicitation information and covers, including Corey Taylor's "House of Gold & Bones," "Buffy The Vampire Slayer Season 9" and more!
CBR News Team, Editor
ANGEL & FAITH #21
Christos Gage (W), Rebekah Isaacs (A/Variant cover), Dan Jackson (C), and Steve Morris (Cover)
On sale Apr 24
FC, 32 pages
$2.99
Ongoing
The time has come for Angel to make good on his promise to resurrect Giles—but at the same time, Season 9’s Big Bads, Pearl and Nash, together with Angel’s own mentor, Whistler, gather the final pieces needed to harness the last magical powers on Earth for their own apocalyptic plan.
• Executive produced by Joss Whedon!
• Angel’s moment of truth!
• Showdown with this season’s Big Bads!
• Distrust and accusations among the heroes!
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Buffyversefantic
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The title of the final arc of Angel & Faith.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Christosgage/status/289048259228483586
| Quote: | SlayAlive @SlayAliveForum 19h
@Christosgage Could you give us the title for A&F #21? Is this a standalone or part of an arc? 4-issue arc? Thanks, sir.
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Christos Gage
@Christosgage
@SlayAliveForum @Allycat2407 Currently the final arc is titled "What You Want, Not What You Need" and it's 5 parts all by @rebekahisaacs .
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So the final arc is five issues (#21 -#25}.And the title of the arc,"What You Want,Not What You Need" seems to be a play on Joss's mantra of giving the audiance what they need not what they want. |
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Buffyversefantic
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Angel & Faith # 18 preview pages.
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=preview&id=14903
| Quote: | EXCLUSIVE PREVIEW: Gage & Isaacs' "Angel & Faith" #18
Courtesy of Dark Horse, CBR presents an exclusive preview of Christos Gage and Rebekah Isaacs' "Angel & Faith" #18. Giles' past continues to haunt the present on January 30!
A demon from Giles’s past is turning innocent Slayers into zombies. Angel and Faith must rally the remaining Slayers if there is any chance to defeat this cunning demon!
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