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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:01 pm    Post subject: Ghostbusters #15 preview/discussion Reply with quote



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The unexpected aftereffects of the knock-off proton packs utilized by the Ghost-Smashers have unleashed one very juiced up ghost on the city of New York! If even the tried and true equipment of the real Ghostbusters can't stop this thing... what can?


Release Date: November 28, 2012
Order Code: SEP120333

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's #15 not #16. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geh, thanks Mike. Not sure what I was thinking.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Geh, thanks Mike. Not sure what I was thinking.
You're welcome, nines. No worries, I'm extremely curious about #16 as well. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn. What an issue. Luis absolutely nailed it (again), especially the Megaspook. Death was particularly awesome and Eugene got a cool ending.

I was expecting the guys to go missing at the end, since we're in late summer and the next issue's a Christmas ish... followed by the rebranding. We'll see how it all plays out.

And sadly, farewell to Tristan Jones for now. We got some brilliant stuff from him. I'd like to see PCOC files continue, but RGB shorts will be fun too.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah yeah. Somehow I knew my favorite moments would involve Ron - Egon chokes a bitch! And Peter's back hand at the end. I hope we'll see more of that in Volume 2.

Bummer, Egon's friend is still nameless. Lesser bummer that Lou and Dani never got any focus in this arc but yeah basically eye candy. Using Death like that was a deus ex machina as Peter went all meta about but suppose it was a decision made by Erik from a story point of view given what the next arc entails starting in February.

Figured we'd see those schematics in PCOC but nice surprise to see those
Arm mounted packs from Tainted Love. Was hoping to see one last file about a ghost or demon but beggars can't be choosers.

Egon had my favorite lines this month - "No, they just worked for one." and "There's no temple with an extradimensional portal to skew the results!"

Easter eggs so far
Cover RI
*The cover is a homage to a scene from the title sequence of The Real Ghostbusters
*Not all the ghosts and demons are from the title sequence such as Slimer, Grabber Ghost, Wrapper Ghost, Gulper Ghost, and Chomper Ghost.

Page One
*Carl the reporter refers to the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man's debut in the first movie.
*The ABS news ticker refers to Grossjuck Industries and Paul Smart from The Real Ghostbusters episode "Robo-Buster"
*The news ticker also refers to the Eye of Truth, Possessor Demon, and 20/40/60 from The Real Ghostbusters episode "Egon on the Rampage"
*One of Luis Delgado's "15" easter eggs is on the underside of the helicopter
*In the last panel when the feed is lost, Sandy Van Sanders and Roone Ancient are on the adjoining screens from The Real Ghostbusters episode "Egon on the Rampage"

Page Two
*Sandy Van Sanders reports from ABS Studios, both from The Real Ghostbusters episode "Egon on the Rampage"
*One of Luis Delgado's "15" easter eggs is the ABS News 15 logo
*Mr. Visitor's television is a "Velocity Microphone" label, an older make of television.

Page Four
*A plaque refers to "Wally Wick," an alternative to the infamous "Dickless" line from the first movie used in TV broadcasts.
*Also in the plaque is a reference to the 3rd District, Peck's station in the first movie when he worked for the E.P.A.
*An Omni magazine, first seen in the first movie, is on Peck's desk.
*The Omni magazine cover features Robo-Buster from The Real Ghostbusters episode "Robo-Buster"
*Ron refers to the Ghostbusters' defacing of national landmarks such as when the Statue of Liberty was animated in Ghostbusters II
*Jenny refers to Ray's Occult Books
*The bowl of candy in Peck's office is from the start of The Real Ghostbusters episode "Halloween II 1/2"

Page Five
*On the back of Egon's pocket computer is "Marsha" the name of his animated counterpart's computer in "Banshee Bake a Cherry Pie?"

Page Six
*The Ecto-2 and Helmet Ecto-Goggles from The Real Ghostbusters make their debut
*The Thanksgiving Day parade poster mentions Stacy's from The Real Ghostbusters episode "Killerwatt"
*The poster also refers to Murray the Mantis and his role in The Real Ghostbusters episode "The Revenge of Murray the Mantis"
*On the street level by Winston are posters for Happy Turkey Stuffing, seen in "Guess What's Coming to Dinner?" in the Haunted Holidays trade paperback
*Above Winston is "R.H. Stacy," an homage to Macy's and Stacy's.
*Near Peter is the Chekaren Fine Furs store, a reference to Chekaren to character and his occupation from "The Man Who Sought Death" in Issue #8
*The Chekaren store replaces Conway, a clothing store.
*The Fight Back poster is from the second montage in the first movie when the Subway Ghost appears.
*Cut off on the right is the Some One poster the Clock Ghost crashed into in Times Square in The Real Ghostbusters "Three Men and An Egon"
*The Traps are laid out in the northwestern corner of Herald Square, at the intersection of Broadway and West 35th Street.

Page Seven
*On the dashboard is the Air Sickness from the Haunted Vehicles line of Kenner, this completes the appearances all three vehicles in the ongoing series

Page 10
*The Grossjuck Plaza can be seen on the left
*Grossjuck Plaza is based in the MetLife Building

Page 11
*Alice the Librarian from the first movie is among the crowd
*Alice's books are "Who's Who and What's That," "Spirit Summonings and Conjurations," "Lochmore's Guide to the Lower Regions"
*The blond guy is Brett Vanderbrook from the "Follow that Marshmallow" tours
*A man mentions the E.P.A.
*Ads for Happy Turkey and Stay Puft are around
*Vince Braggs from The Real Ghostbusters "Banshee Bake a Cherry Pie?" is in the crowd
*The big red building in the foreground is Herald Towers

Page 12
*The Traps and Mega Trap are connected to the generator for Peter's thrower at the end of The Real Ghostbusters episode "The Devil in the Deep"

Page 13
*Peter dons his shades from the montage in Ghostbusters II
*The trigger Peter uses is visually based on the one used by Egon for the Ect-Garbage Truck in Extreme Ghostbusters "Back in the Saddle" Part 2
*Another ad for the Stay Puft Marshmallows can be seen

Page 16
*One of Luis Delgado's "15" easter eggs is on the underside of the black helicopter

Page 18
*Winston suggests Crossing the Streams
*Egon refers to the Temple of Gozer from the first movie
*The billboard references ABS Studios again
*The billboard also references Blinkers and his television show, deleted from Ghostbusters: The Video Game, Realistic Versions

Page 20
*Peter refers to Death taking out the Megaspook as a Deus ex Machina, a classic trope where an unsolvable problem is abruptly solved.
*To the right is the Stacy's building
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrmichaelt wrote:

Bummer, Egon's friend is still nameless. Lesser bummer that Lou and Dani never got any focus in this arc but yeah basically eye candy. Using Death like that was a deus ex machina as Peter went all meta about but suppose it was a decision made by Erik from a story point of view given what the next arc entails starting in February.


Still nameless? He was named in #8: Eugene Visitor. (:

And though Peter called it a deus ex machina (and it would seem that way if this was the only issue you read) I had it set up to happen seven months ago, in #8. (:

Egon told Eugene that there would be consequences for keeping Death trapped. He saw the consequences starting to happen on TV... and once he released Death, the reaper did his job.

It wasn't quite out of left field!

#16 will foreshadow the New Ghostbusters arc, for sure...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Still nameless? He was named in #8: Eugene Visitor. (:
No, the helicopter pilot.

Also yay for the November 24th date on the parade poster. Wink

Well, from Peter's POV it was sorta of a deus ex machina? I mean, I'm betting he wasn't paying that much attention to Egon's research... Also his parade line was hilarious, too.

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Oh!

Man, I could've sworn we threw his name in there, but I might have cut the line.

And yeah, Peter just saw something else step in and take care of the problem, he'd happily call that what he did.
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Erik Burnham wrote:
Man, I could've sworn we threw his name in there, but I might have cut the line.
Mm, the line must have been cut.

But I dug how he and Eugene both refer to Egon with nicknames (Eeg and Spengy).
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Fritz Babbles About Ghostbusters #15

We go to Sandy Van Sanders of 20/40/60 and our supernatural disaster already in progress:

Giant monster is tearing up the streets of New York. I think for some reason I'll call it a "Grossjuck Critter", and not just because it's driving down the company's stock price.

We get a big plot twist on page 2: remember Eugene Visitor, the guy with death in his bag, from issue #8? Yeah, he's watching the ABS coverage and tells his Dad that maybe it's time he let it out.

We flash back to a few hours earlier, as both Venkman and Ron are getting their asses chewed out by Peck. More Ron, of course, since it's his dematerializers that made the Grossjuck Critter, but Peck doesn't miss an opportunity to smack down "Mister Venkman" too.

Ray, meanwhile, gets hit on by Jenny Moran, the Ghostsmasher who just happens to look like Dan Aykroyd's wife. Ray's really impressed when she mentions his occult book store. After that, Ray offers to take her for a whirl.

...

In his helicopter, as the ECTO-2 makes it's comic debut.

(Well, sorta. It wasn't in the Now Comics series, since James Van Hise loved his own flying creation, the ECTO-4, so much. It did appear in the Marvel UK series, but they drew it like the toy instead of the animation model, plus most of the Marvel UK stuff blew anyway, so I won't count it.)

As Venkman and Winston set up an array of ghost traps (reminiscant of the way they caught Stay-Puft in "Cry Uncle"), Egon is in his buddy's helicopter (aforementioned buddy seen back in #4) with the other Ghostsmashers. Egon's normal state is logical and under control, which means that when he does snap it's epic. Him lunging for Peck's throat in the movie is the most famous example, but there's also the way he threw a snotty snit-fit in "Robo Buster"; here, he's ready to throttle Ron after one jerkass remark too many before his pilot friend calms things down. Give Egon a break, between the Ghostsmasher created Grossjuck Critter, the woman he loves getting Rogered, and that spirit of death that should be on the loose but isn't, Egon's had a lot to worry about lately.

The Grossjuck Critter is surrounding the Empire State Building (As Venkman said in "Adventures In Slime And Space": "Keeps the gorillas off"); Egon, the two Ghostsmasher women with him, and Jenny on the ECTO-2 open fire; Venkman and Winston spring the traps.

But it's not enough. Not even with that souped-up super trap that just happens to look like one of the EGB toys. The traps blow and the Grossjuck Critter escapes, except now it's like he's hopped up on Red Bull. Because it's turned into a giant, demonic red thing with bull horns.

As Egon might say with his usual gift for dry understatement, this is "Not good."

Then another giant ghost shows up. The Ghostbusters and Ghostsmashers are crapping their pants, until the second ghost takes down Red Bull and then just fades away.

The ghost of Eugene Visitor appears, and tells Egon the second ghost was the death spirit he had in his bag. The supernatural world will now be back in balance, though, yeah, time for Euguene to go to the Other Side. Which means that, with the Grossjuck Critter gone and the death spirit back to its appointed rounds, all Egon's got to worry about now is the Roger thing.

Hope he gets on that quick...I have this weird feeling that Egon'll be going away soon...
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I don't know about you, mrmichaelt, but the tentacles looked a lot like the ones that come out of a Graboid's mouth in Tremors:


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The Rookie wrote:
I don't know about you, mrmichaelt, but the tentacles looked a lot like the ones that come out of a Graboid's mouth in Tremors:
Could be. You're referring to part of the Megaspook, right?
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mrmichaelt wrote:
The Rookie wrote:
I don't know about you, mrmichaelt, but the tentacles looked a lot like the ones that come out of a Graboid's mouth in Tremors:
Could be. You're referring to part of the Megaspook, right?


Yes. Forgot to specify.
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Erik Burnham wrote:
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Man, I could've sworn we threw his name in there, but I might have cut the line.
So um...yeah...what's his name or saving it for a later issue?
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