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cashel · Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:11 am Post subject:

I'm happy to see mainframe is sticking around as he was the most interesting dix character as far as I am concerned. I went ahead and ordered the issues I'd missed as I want to see how idw leads into season three. I haven't read any of this guy's previous work but he sounds like he has embrassed the mythos. Glad to see cobra continue under Costa and I'll be buying secret missions- as well.
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Rockhammer · Transforumer Joined: 05 Feb 2008 Posts: 705

Eagleyes · Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:58 pm Post subject:

If you didn't like Cobra, I think you're in the minority.
If you don't like Cobra's art, I think you're in the majority.

Still, Rockhammer, if you dont like new direction, Dixon had his chance on the main title, and for whatever reasons, he's been replaced, while Cobra continues.

And if you dont want to pick up Fred's work or Costa's, you still have the classic ARAH Hamaverse to read, which I don't like personally, and IDW is still giving Dixon a shot and you can pick up Special Missions.

Rockhammer · Transforumer Joined: 05 Feb 2008 Posts: 705

Eagleyes · Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:46 pm Post subject:

I'm not sure how connected the 3 series will be.

I'm going to pick up Dixon's Special Missions too and give it a chance.
I enjoyed his Snakeyes much better than his main run.

I'm also curious about why Cobra was the least selling of the series, but I have few guesses. How much lower is it actually selling?

1) It was planned as a miniseries and then because of the positive reviews became a "supplemental" series to read in additional to the main run with expectations lower than the main run.

2) The name itself limits its appeal. I would expect the "brand" name to sell more than a "spinoff". Its like saying Batman outsells Robin, therefore its stories are better. Or if there was a Joker series that its scripts would be judged better or worse only if it outsold Batman sales.

3) The art. I dropped the old ddp Storm Shadow after the 3rd issue because I could not stand the art. I actually believe this proves how much better Costa's writing is than Dixon's as far as comparing the story ideas and the ending of the arcs and the characterization/developments, because had the writing not been so good, I wouldve dropped the title over the art. As much as I love Atkins art, I dont want to see him draw the mass device.

4) The fans just dont like their GIJOE to be this dark. And I'd count you in this area.

5) The economy. $3.99 for a comic is alot. and if you're buying all 4 and keeping the "main" run because its the main run and therefore you're a Dixon fan, you'd probably want to buy Snakeyes too and then you'd prefer the old school Hamaverse, too. So that leaves Cobra as the 1st to drop when you need extra cash money

Those 5 reasons are guesses in my humble opinion of why its selling as low or lower.

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Machete Phil · Transforumer Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 750

this guy seems to be doing and saying a lot of the right things. i'm definitely going to keep an open mind with this new direction.
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Eagleyes · Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:33 pm Post subject:

Thx for getting the thread back on topic, Machete Phil.

Rock hammer and I should just create a pros and cons Cobra thread.

vguzz2 · Transforumer Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 672

I loved Image/DDP's G.I Joe books especially the later "America's Elite" run. I do also enjoy ARAH which i buy. If there was another joe book it would have to be something that picked up after DDP's run. No offense but i could care less about IDW's original Joe stories..
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stoplis · Private Joined: 08 Dec 2011 Posts: 9

I can't believe that so many people dislike Fuso's art, especially when you compare it to Rosado's work on Joe. The art in Joe has been awful since Cobra Comand.

I'm so happy that they've left Costa/Fuso relatively alone to carry on with what they're doing.

shanecdavis · Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:05 pm Post subject:

I can't speak for anyone else, but I can tell you why, in my opinion, Fuso's art is borderline horrible. It is mainly due to me growing up with the Marvel run. G.I. Joe is the only comic I have ever actively collected and the artistic style of Mr. Hama himself, Rod Whigham, and Ron Wagner are the standard by which all artists that work on the product are measured. I prefer the artistic style in a Joe comic to be clean and very detailed, from facial expressions to being able to easily identify characters, vehicles, and weapons. Fuso is good at NONE of that. I also prefer actions scenes to flow well and be easy to follow along. Again, Fuso fails miserably. The ARAH title is EXACTLY what I want from a Joe comic, in terms of artistic style. COBRA is EXACTLY what I don't want. Fuso's style only reminds me of the likes of Tony Salmons, Mark Robinson, and Ben Templesmith. I am sure in other formats the style of these artists are great, but to me their style doesn't work in a Joe comic. At all.