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Cyberstrike
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| DanielW wrote: | | Disney knows business, if Dark Horse is going to make money for their Star Wars licence, they'll leave the comics in DH's hands, if IDW is making money for Disney off the Trnasformer's licence, then the comic will stay in IDW's hands. |
Boom Studios had the license for just about every Disney comic book and less than a year after Disney bought Marvel they lost the licence to...you guessed it: Marvel, (and IMHO Marvel has done a very poor job with the Disney comics). My guess is the same with Star Wars they will honor the current deal/contract with Dark Horse but once it is over they will bring Star Wars back to Marvel.
From I have seen and gathered Disney will only licence their IPs out to other companies unless they absolutely have to because they don't own a way to make a product and/or get it out to mass market.
I think it's a safe bet that if do buy out Hasbro that the days of IDW having the license for both The Transformers and G.I. Joe will be numbered.
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Look on the plus side. What have we been clamouring for for years now? TF animated features. What are Disney really rather good at?
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| Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:58 am Post subject: |
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| Urzu Six wrote: | Look on the plus side. What have we been clamouring for for years now? TF animated features. What are Disney really rather good at?
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I think people have been clamoring for more of the Warner Bros./DC Comics type animated features (Doomsday, Red Hood, Dark Knight), and not so much Cinderella III (even the Ultimates animated features aren't anything special). |
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I can't be bothered being pragmatic or nonchalant.
If they end what we have now, I will never forgive them.
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| Focksbot wrote: | | If they end what we have now, I will never forgive them. |
THIS. So much of this! I've only just got over taking the -ations away and starting AHM! Moving it to marvel and ending all hope of carrying what we've got on is too bad to contemplate!
On the flip side - animated features.... Bloody nice thought there Urzu6!! I would seriously love to see that happen. Animated movie/series - G1, written by Roberts..... all together now PLLLEEEAAAASSEE!!
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| Cyberstrike wrote: | | DanielW wrote: | | Disney knows business, if Dark Horse is going to make money for their Star Wars licence, they'll leave the comics in DH's hands, if IDW is making money for Disney off the Trnasformer's licence, then the comic will stay in IDW's hands. |
Boom Studios had the license for just about every Disney comic book and less than a year after Disney bought Marvel they lost the licence to...you guessed it: Marvel, (and IMHO Marvel has done a very poor job with the Disney comics). My guess is the same with Star Wars they will honor the current deal/contract with Dark Horse but once it is over they will bring Star Wars back to Marvel.
From I have seen and gathered Disney will only licence their IPs out to other companies unless they absolutely have to because they don't own a way to make a product and/or get it out to mass market.
I think it's a safe bet that if do buy out Hasbro that the days of IDW having the license for both The Transformers and G.I. Joe will be numbered. |
I don't think BOOM! was making a lot of money for the franchise, other companies who contracted BOOM! to create comics for them pulled their franchise offer after the first few years with them favouring either making comics "in house" or not at all (case in point Games Workshop and it's Warhammer franchise).
If Disney does buy Hasbro, they'll look at it from all angles and say "which makes us the most money with the least effort" and that'll be "stay with IDW", IDW is often the "number three" in the industry, it's got an established fanbase, it's paying for the privilage to make the comics in the first place (what's that you say? Free money and not having to pay artists, letterers and writers? BRILLIANT!) and importantly is doing "good things" for the franchise, it's obvious to me that Disney decided that they didn't like what BOOM! was doing or it wasn't making enough money, something that IDW is doing, Hasbro has the right each year to shop around, hell it probably does, for the best company to create their Transformers comics. They choose IDW year in year out. That won't change, even though Disney owns Marvel.
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If Disney does buy Hasbro, they'll look at it from all angles and say "which makes us the most money with the least effort" and that'll be "stay with IDW", IDW is often the "number three" in the industry, it's got an established fanbase, it's paying for the privilage to make the comics in the first place (what's that you say? Free money and not having to pay artists, letterers and writers? BRILLIANT!) and importantly is doing "good things" for the franchise, it's obvious to me that Disney decided that they didn't like what BOOM! was doing or it wasn't making enough money, something that IDW is doing, Hasbro has the right each year to shop around, hell it probably does, for the best company to create their Transformers comics. They choose IDW year in year out. That won't change, even though Disney owns Marvel. |
Having your comics published in-house would be a heck of a lot easier than licensing it out--that's mirroring part of the reason people think Disney is planning to buy Hasbro, so that they can produce the Marvel and Star Wars toys in-house rather than licensing them out to Hasbro. Disney would also most definitely consider there to be more money in having a big company like Marvel publish comics for their Hasbro properties. They may not feel the same way about Hasbro as IDW at all.
Also, the BOOM! Disney comics were pretty popular with both fans and critics. I'm not sure what Disney thought they were doing wrong, but apparently having Marvel do little to nothing with the properties is better... |
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| Quote: | | I think it's a safe bet that if do buy out Hasbro that the days of IDW having the license for both The Transformers and G.I. Joe will be numbered. |
Yup. Anything else is just dreaming I think. |
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Urzu Six
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| Iacon_Pax wrote: | | Urzu Six wrote: | Look on the plus side. What have we been clamouring for for years now? TF animated features. What are Disney really rather good at?
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I think people have been clamoring for more of the Warner Bros./DC Comics type animated features (Doomsday, Red Hood, Dark Knight), and not so much Cinderella III (even the Ultimates animated features aren't anything special). |
But Disney are also responsible shows like for Gargoyles, and that's about as far away from Cinderella as you can get.
If it's true, then yeah... it's probably bad news all around for Prime and IDW. And like I said in my first post, I'm really not a fan of Disney buying everything in sight just because they can.
I'd really rather this not happen, honestly.
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But Disney are also responsible shows like for Gargoyles, and that's about as far away from Cinderella as you can get.
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Gargoyles was friggin' amazing, I'll give you that!
(I also have a soft spot for Tailspin...) |
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What I find funny is that;
Transformers 3 was a film designed to sells toys, and it had no emotional depth
Toy Story 3 was a film about toys, and it had a vast well of emotional depth that made a lot of people cry
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DanielW
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Unless it's a "deny deny reveal" sort of thing, denying anything's going on because rumours could adversely affect the brand and then announce the sale.
I'm thinking that if Disney does do it, can they give the TF film franchise to Pixar?
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| dtrip wrote: | What I find funny is that;
Transformers 3 was a film designed to sells toys, and it had no emotional depth
Toy Story 3 was a film about toys, and it had a vast well of emotional depth that made a lot of people cry |
Yeah but it's rumored Transformers 3 figures didn't sale all the well which is why waves were canceled.
It should've dawned on Hasbro that there's only so many Movie Prime's and Bumblebees kids need. Plus those other designs looked terrible. So go figure.
In a perfect world, Barber and James (and some of the artist) would get promotions within Disney and they could nix the movies and that god awful Prime show and start from scratch. But just my luck if this deal does go through everything would remain the same except for the comic books.
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| YoungPrime wrote: |
In a perfect world, Barber and James (and some of the artist) would get promotions within Disney and they could nix the movies and that god awful Prime show and start from scratch. But just my luck if this deal does go through everything would remain the same except for the comic books. |
God awful Prime show? Have you watched it? |
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