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The Best & Worst of Transformers
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CyclonusArmada
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:54 am    Post subject: The Best & Worst of Transformers Reply with quote

We know our stuff. There is a reason that the collective Fandom largely groan whenever they hear the name Michael Bay. True he brought TF back into the public consciousness but well he could have done it a lot better. So by this point everyone, regardless of your level of knowledge, has their opinion on what they like and don't in the entire mythos, from Toys to Films, sound off.


For Example, one thing I like about Bayformers: Language. The Transformers had their own language (as they should) and many didn't speak english at all. A sound and sensible idea for an advanced alien race. Whereas the thing I hated about Bayformers more than anything else: Frenzy.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was not a big fan of the target/head masters. Some of the toys were pretty cool but the general idea was okay at best for me but after seeing those last three epsidodes of the G1 cartoon just killed it for me.

I was fine with the original insecticons, the cassesttes, the dinobots, and I still like those, but later as more characters were introduced, I developed a hatred for Cybertronians transforming into something animal like. Then came Beast Wars. I tried. I put in a great deal of effort to try and like the show and the toys and I just couldn't. I have tried over the years, giving Beast Wars chance after chance but I just can't get into it.

I had a very hard time getting into the Marvel's run of the comics. It just seemed the Autobots were always on the brink of annhilation with no hope in site, it just seemed too dark and one sided too often. It didn't help that where I grew up there just wasn't enough copies each month to meet demand.

Not just TF toys, but toys in general, I hate store and con exclusives. Its one of the reasons why I gave up on collecting.

Bayformers Rolling Eyes Get better writers. I like the built in weapons but the overall designs are hit and miss. Devastator, Frenzy, Wheelie, Skids and Mudflap are all just a sad, sick tragedy. The late teen/early 20something human tag alongs are not neccesary...ever.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best: there's a whole new generation of fans, ones who have 3 movies to be cherished childhood classics. We had to make do with one.

And as much as I love the '86 movie, I will admit the current ones are probably better and more fun. Maybe even ROTF (we had Stan bush. It evens out).

Who thought we would EVER see a live-action Transformers movie? A proper, tricked out one?
Who thought we'd have FOUR, and almost certainly at least a few more?

Never in my wildest childhood dreams did I think it was possible.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KJ wrote:
And as much as I love the '86 movie, I will admit the current ones are probably better and more fun.





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In all honesty, TF:TM is The villain fans Movie. Bay has screwed over virtually every important Decepticon in his three films and made their faction a neutered joke. TF:TM revelled in how powerful the Cons should rightfully be portrayed. The Autobots had a good moment every now and then but the Cons were the stars of TF:TM. Plus most of the 80's cheese/comic relief was rested solely with the Autobots, as it should be.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KJ wrote:
Best: there's a whole new generation of fans, ones who have 3 movies to be cherished childhood classics. We had to make do with one.

And as much as I love the '86 movie, I will admit the current ones are probably better and more fun. Maybe even ROTF (we had Stan bush. It evens out).

Who thought we would EVER see a live-action Transformers movie? A proper, tricked out one?
Who thought we'd have FOUR, and almost certainly at least a few more?

Never in my wildest childhood dreams did I think it was possible.


I always thought it was possible, just not probable.

As bitter as I made myself out to be, I am grateful that we did get the movies and that I was able to share that experience with my son and my dad who took me to see the '86 movie the day it opened.

We also have in TF Prime a great television series to carry on the awesomeness that came from the G1 cartoon.

My son is addicted to collecting the Cyberverse line of toys and Hasbro has been out some pretty cool stuff of late.

Between the two of us re-reading the IDWverse we have just about brought our single issues to the point of disintegration.

It's a great time to be a Transformers fan.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best: Beast Era, love beast wars and i love beast machines so alot.
Worst: i want to say energon but i have a soft spot for that show as i remember watching it when i was like 8 at 2 in the morning to get my TF fix
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of the toys of The Unicron Trilogy were really quite decent (EG we actually GOT a Unicron toy after decades of waiting) its just, well I don't know if it was just mistranslation but the dialogue was just plain bad. Definitely a 'guilty pleasure' if ever there was one in TF.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cannot dispute more the idea that the pigswill being referred to here as Transformers movies are "better and more fun" than the 86 animated one. Just...

...ugh. The mind boggles. I'd say RotF is the low point of the franchise, quality-wise.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Armada and Energon TV shows, English versions.

Let alone Transformers, I've scarcely seen a more rushed translating, dubbing, and editing job on an anime. Couple that with completely sad animation at times and (mostly) lifeless voice acting, and I've never felt more that Transformers was being used merely as a shameless cash grab.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Energon. I HATED the cell shading. Couldn't stand to watch it. BLEH.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unicron Trilogy is definitely a low point for me.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 5:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Least-liked: I won't call it "worst" as it's to do with me and my preferences, not the quality of the show/toyline... but Beast Wars. Much like Doomseeker I had trouble giving a damn about robots that turned into animals. I just didn't feel it was important to nearby triceratops whether the invaders were In Disguise or not Smile Also possibly a factor: when the toyline was hitting I was putting aside childish things (for a few years at least Wink and turning my interest to the opposite sex. Or at least staring longingly at them and being too shy to say anything Smile

Most-liked: The ~ations era. Not because I hold the stories to be objectively the best of the IDW line (though I do rate them highly), but because they're wrapped up in the excitement of the relaunch. I'd heard from someone somewhere that there were new TF comics in production (I'd never got to hear about the Dreamwave era), was searching Amazon for clues and found Infiltration in trade... written by Simon Furman... and there was much rejoicing.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Danforth wrote:
Least-liked: I won't call it "worst" as it's to do with me and my preferences, not the quality of the show/toyline... but Beast Wars. Much like Doomseeker I had trouble giving a damn about robots that turned into animals. I just didn't feel it was important to nearby triceratops whether the invaders were In Disguise or not Also possibly a factor: when the toyline was hitting I was putting aside childish things (for a few years at least and turning my interest to the opposite sex. Or at least staring longingly at them and being too shy to say anything

I've noticed time being a running theme with a lot of fans who didn't take to BW. After all BW was virtually a decade after the end of Sunbow, it ultimately was a factor for some. BW brought me back to TF but then I was 5 or 6 by the end of Sunbow/my G1.

Also as an aside i'm writing this while watching TF:TM for the first time this year, Bay has yet to even come close.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kirjava wrote:
I cannot dispute more the idea that the pigswill being referred to here as Transformers movies are "better and more fun" than the 86 animated one. Just...

...ugh. The mind boggles. I'd say RotF is the low point of the franchise, quality-wise.


I'm looking it as the view of a young kid today.

Not for us.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well the OP did state "the entire mythos", and I maintain that it is indisputable that in the entire mythos the Bay movies are less than the bottom of the barrel.
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