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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would be Chaos Theory, surely? Shocked
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sprite wrote:
That would be Chaos Theory, surely? Shocked


Good point.
I was thinking in combat, not, er, in a professional or social capacity... but you're right.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LivioRamondelli wrote:
According to the editors, the Sherma Bridge fight actually takes place before the events of Autocracy. So, that particular fight isn't in the finale.


Oooh...that give me some more continuity to ponder over...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think in this case the editors might have made a boo-boo. Sherma Bridge will have to come after Autocracy. Prime definitely hasn't tangled with Megatron before Autocracy as far as my reading of it shows.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kirjava wrote:
I think in this case the editors might have made a boo-boo. Sherma Bridge will have to come after Autocracy. Prime definitely hasn't tangled with Megatron before Autocracy as far as my reading of it shows.


Right you are, and in CT Megatron describes the Autobots who were there as "your" autobots to Prime, implying that he was the leader by then.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kirjava wrote:
I think in this case the editors might have made a boo-boo. Sherma Bridge will have to come after Autocracy. Prime definitely hasn't tangled with Megatron before Autocracy as far as my reading of it shows.


I'd say it's probably good for us all not to dwell on the specifics of when that fight took place. I mean, the point of Chaos Theory was to show that they'd had many fights together, and not specifically when each fight took place in their continuity.

It doesn't really affect Autocracy as far as I'm concerned- at their first meeting in the series (Issue 4) Megatron and Orion are clearly aware of one another- so maybe they'd had some scrapes or run ins, but Autocracy is certainly one of their first epic confronations.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LivioRamondelli wrote:
Kirjava wrote:
I think in this case the editors might have made a boo-boo. Sherma Bridge will have to come after Autocracy. Prime definitely hasn't tangled with Megatron before Autocracy as far as my reading of it shows.


I'd say it's probably good for us all not to dwell on the specifics of when that fight took place. I mean, the point of Chaos Theory was to show that they'd had many fights together, and not specifically when each fight took place in their continuity.

It doesn't really affect Autocracy as far as I'm concerned- at their first meeting in the series (Issue 4) Megatron and Orion are clearly aware of one another- so maybe they'd had some scrapes or run ins, but Autocracy is certainly one of their first epic confronations.


Sherma Bridge felt to me like it happened after Autocracy. It wasnt their first fight, that much is obvious after Issue 4 I think. So maybe they were wrong in CT about when that happened.?

Thats how I would read it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I imagine we're making a mountain out of a molehill, but hey, we're FANS! Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kirjava wrote:
I imagine we're making a mountain out of a molehill, but hey, we're FANS! Cool


Its what we do. Autocracy was a great read by all accounts regardless of these continuity errors that may have happened in it.

Im going to say that that fight happened after Autocracy and not before or during.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ultramagnus1 wrote:
Kirjava wrote:
I imagine we're making a mountain out of a molehill, but hey, we're FANS! Cool


Its what we do. Autocracy was a great read by all accounts regardless of these continuity errors that may have happened in it.

Im going to say that that fight happened after Autocracy and not before or during.


In the end, we each have our own personal "canon" based on how we interpret or just like to view the continuity.
To me, Chaos Theory is their first meeting, Autocracy is their first meeting as militarily aligned opponents, and Sherma Bridge happened after Autocracy.
That's simply the way I choose to think of the storylines in my own mind.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iacon_Pax wrote:
ultramagnus1 wrote:
Kirjava wrote:
I imagine we're making a mountain out of a molehill, but hey, we're FANS! Cool


Its what we do. Autocracy was a great read by all accounts regardless of these continuity errors that may have happened in it.

Im going to say that that fight happened after Autocracy and not before or during.


In the end, we each have our own personal "canon" based on how we interpret or just like to view the continuity.
To me, Chaos Theory is their first meeting, Autocracy is their first meeting as militarily aligned opponents, and Sherma Bridge happened after Autocracy.
That's simply the way I choose to think of the storylines in my own mind.


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Thats exactly how I see it too.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iacon_Pax wrote:
ultramagnus1 wrote:
Kirjava wrote:
I imagine we're making a mountain out of a molehill, but hey, we're FANS! Cool


Its what we do. Autocracy was a great read by all accounts regardless of these continuity errors that may have happened in it.

Im going to say that that fight happened after Autocracy and not before or during.


In the end, we each have our own personal "canon" based on how we interpret or just like to view the continuity.
To me, Chaos Theory is their first meeting, Autocracy is their first meeting as militarily aligned opponents, and Sherma Bridge happened after Autocracy.
That's simply the way I choose to think of the storylines in my own mind.


That's how I like to see it as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LivioRamondelli wrote:
Iacon_Pax wrote:
ultramagnus1 wrote:
Kirjava wrote:
I imagine we're making a mountain out of a molehill, but hey, we're FANS! Cool


Its what we do. Autocracy was a great read by all accounts regardless of these continuity errors that may have happened in it.

Im going to say that that fight happened after Autocracy and not before or during.


In the end, we each have our own personal "canon" based on how we interpret or just like to view the continuity.
To me, Chaos Theory is their first meeting, Autocracy is their first meeting as militarily aligned opponents, and Sherma Bridge happened after Autocracy.
That's simply the way I choose to think of the storylines in my own mind.


That's how I like to see it as well.


A sequel showing that battle would clear this part of continuity up.

As I have said elsewhere this battle which is now one of the most famous in the IDWverse and we havent properly seen it could be discussed in MTMTE in Shadowplay.
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