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thundershot Private
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:29 am Post subject: Why is Headmasters not in Classics v3? |
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I was completely shocked to see Headmasters #1-4 omitted from this book... VERY jarring for new readers (I'm not one of them, but still) to go from #37 to 38 and suddenly you have all these new characters with a history and no back story... You could have left out Man of Iron (which is in UK v1) to get some more space...
With no release date for v4 yet, people are going to be denied Headmasters for a while...
So what happened?? |
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DoctorHeadacheRushing Comic Book Guy

Joined: 22 Jul 2011 Posts: 27 Location: Hampshire, England
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:01 am Post subject: |
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Good question, I thought the very same thing when it arrived this morning. Hopefully it will be reprinted in vol. 4 but chronologically it would have made more sense in this book. _________________ Ignorance can be fixed, stupid is forever... |
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temple Transforumer

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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:35 am Post subject: |
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Volume 4 or maybe the last volume as a kind of appendix, with the Movie adaptation perhaps? _________________ You exist because we allow it. You will end because we demand it.
Oh, and OK to print... |
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Darth Bombshell Transforumer
Joined: 18 Oct 2007 Posts: 984 Location: Maple Ridge, British Columbia, Canada.
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: Why is Headmasters not in Classics v3? |
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| thundershot wrote: | I was completely shocked to see Headmasters #1-4 omitted from this book... VERY jarring for new readers (I'm not one of them, but still) to go from #37 to 38 and suddenly you have all these new characters with a history and no back story... You could have left out Man of Iron (which is in UK v1) to get some more space...
With no release date for v4 yet, people are going to be denied Headmasters for a while...
So what happened?? |
Man of Iron was planned as part of the ongoing series, while Headmasters is considered a seperate series. That probably is why it was published in Volume 6 instead of in chonological order in Volume 3. _________________ Everything I say is OK To Print, Even the Bad Stuff.
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RackNRuin Forum Zombie
Joined: 21 Feb 2011 Posts: 294 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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Though I was also hoping for its inclusion, the OP shouldn't be that surprised. In its previous release of "Classics" volumes, IDW held Headmasters back until the FINAL volume (v6) and as somebody suggested above, it was included as an 'appendix' alongside the movie adaptation after the regular 80-issue series concluded.
IDW has taken the decision to publish the 80-issue series in its publication-order entirety; it will undoubtedly then include Headmasters and the Movie adaptation again and - hopefully - the Universe mini-series for the sake of completeness (I'd also hope for the GI Joe vs. mini-series too, but this is unlikely given its going to be released alongside the G2-tie-in GI Joe stuff later this year as its own volume).
Incidentally, Titan Books (who reprinted the comic series from 2001-2005) DID do exactly as you suggested - "Headmasters" was included in its chronological place before #38 (in the "Trial By Fire" release) and "Man of Iron" (#33-34) and "Big Broadcast of 2006" (#43) were omitted because they were not a part of the "main" story. _________________ Some ideas to improve the comic: One: Drift needs to be louder, angrier, and have access to a time machine. Two: whenever Drift's not in an issue, all the other characters should be asking "Where's Drift"? |
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Sprite Transforumer

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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:41 am Post subject: |
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I think those two stories were left out because they were originally created for the UK comics. Oddly enough, though, Titan didn't include them in the UK reprints either. _________________
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Urzu Six Transforumer

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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:23 am Post subject: |
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Big Broadcast... was a US story, only the framing pages were UK done, to tie it into Space Pirates.
It was summarised in the Titan UK collected book, I think. _________________
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Sprite Transforumer

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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:56 am Post subject: |
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...really? Geez, I always thought it was UK...  _________________
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RackNRuin Forum Zombie
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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Nope, it was US #43. A "filler" issue to allow Uncle Bob to catch up (one of the Titan collections contains Bob's sketch of issue #45's cover... it is labelled issue #44, suggesting Big Broadcast was slot in to help him cope with deadlines).
"Man Of Iron" WAS a UK story, but was also reprinted in the US series. _________________ Some ideas to improve the comic: One: Drift needs to be louder, angrier, and have access to a time machine. Two: whenever Drift's not in an issue, all the other characters should be asking "Where's Drift"? |
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thundershot Private
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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| RackNRuin wrote: | Though I was also hoping for its inclusion, the OP shouldn't be that surprised. In its previous release of "Classics" volumes, IDW held Headmasters back until the FINAL volume (v6) and as somebody suggested above, it was included as an 'appendix' alongside the movie adaptation after the regular 80-issue series concluded.
IDW has taken the decision to publish the 80-issue series in its publication-order entirety; it will undoubtedly then include Headmasters and the Movie adaptation again and - hopefully - the Universe mini-series for the sake of completeness (I'd also hope for the GI Joe vs. mini-series too, but this is unlikely given its going to be released alongside the G2-tie-in GI Joe stuff later this year as its own volume).
Incidentally, Titan Books (who reprinted the comic series from 2001-2005) DID do exactly as you suggested - "Headmasters" was included in its chronological place before #38 (in the "Trial By Fire" release) and "Man of Iron" (#33-34) and "Big Broadcast of 2006" (#43) were omitted because they were not a part of the "main" story. |
I never had the previous "classics" books because I knew they weren't complete, so I didn't know how it was done. I do have the Titan books, which is why I had just assumed IDW would do that as well, since it makes the most sense.
I see that the GIJOE vs Transformers mini is being reprinted in a separate trade along with the 4 G2 issues of GIJOE... |
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RackNRuin Forum Zombie
Joined: 21 Feb 2011 Posts: 294 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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| thundershot wrote: | | I see that the GIJOE vs Transformers mini is being reprinted in a separate trade along with the 4 G2 issues of GIJOE... |
Indeed; incidentally, I've noticed that the trade is called "GI Joe vs The Transformers VOLUME 1" and collects all their (US) Marvel interactions... the suffix "Vol 1" does suggest a vol 2 is incoming, perhaps with the Dreamwave WW2 mini-series or even the DDP crossover stuff (so there'd probably be a v3 as well). _________________ Some ideas to improve the comic: One: Drift needs to be louder, angrier, and have access to a time machine. Two: whenever Drift's not in an issue, all the other characters should be asking "Where's Drift"? |
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Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 5:31 am Post subject: |
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| Urzu Six wrote: | Big Broadcast... was a US story, only the framing pages were UK done, to tie it into Space Pirates.
It was summarised in the Titan UK collected book, I think. |
Big Broadcast was an original US story that the UK was forced to print but unfortunately a lot of the story went against what Furman was doing in Marvel UK especially with Galvatron being in that time along with some rather dodgey dialog. To get around this it was used as a prolog to Space Pirates with a captured Wreck Gar telling his interrogator a story that was a fabrication as it would not have made sense to Marvel UK readers.
It worked but the story was terrible. _________________
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