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Matrix
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| Soundwave wrote: | Well, ya got to give Bay credit where it do. Those 3 movies made a ton of money, because they appealed to the movie going masses. I will admit to enjoying the special effects and the explosions were cool.
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Can you really give him credit?
If you gave 150 million dollars to James Cameron and told him to make an action film with a well known franchise with huge nostalgia value, he'd do the same.
Hell, most directors could. I could concede giving credit to Bay's films as being part of the decline in cinema quality that's resulted in audience complacancy, but that's not really a good thing.
Transformers is just one of those franchises that are easy to make money from. Huge nostalgia value for people in their twenties and early thirties, whilst simultaneously being popular with children. Meanwhile, the company in charge is one of the biggest toy companies on the planet with all-invasive advertising.
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Batman Forever and Batman & Robin made money and we all know how they are thought of in hindsight. Would you give Schmaucher credit too?
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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| CyclonusArmada wrote: | | Would you give Schmaucher credit too? |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxRmzq3Azs4
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| Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2012 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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Exactly.
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I wonder which character will get the uber childish treatment and then marketed to the point of quashing everything else from the franchise into oblivion?
Will it be youthful and immature Raphael? Or will Splinter turn into a profanity cracking jokester?
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Is that really a question? Michaelangelo's nearly there in most incarnations as it is.
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Hey I can dream can't I?  |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:06 am Post subject: |
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| Josh wrote: | | Hey I can dream can't I? |
Depends on the dream...
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Ha!!  Best response I've seen for a while. Nicely played Sir. <doffs hat in CyclonusArmada's direction> |
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| Snake Pliskin-o-bot wrote: | | <doffs hat in CyclonusArmada's direction> |
A' Thank You. Why doesn't Bay try out an 80's cartoon that no one really cares about like Go Bots? That way he might even improve it with one of his bizarre reimaginings.
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There are no 80's franchises that Bay could improve.
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| Kingoji wrote: | | There are no 80's franchises that Bay could improve. |
She-Ra? Given his thing for spotlighting trashy actresses he could turn that into his ideal T&A Movie...
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'Cinema of attractions' is the academic term here. Films based on much-loved pop culture franchises will always, always, always just be a chain of outlandish setpieces no plot could hope to justify. The formula is simple: one big pot. Throw everything in. In-jokes and visual nods for long-term fans. A few risque jokes. A few self-aware jokes. Massive objects exploding or smashing things. A multi-coloured melange of CGI. Curvy actresses. T&A. Slapstick. Trash talk.
It can never be a good movie, but it's not ever intended to be. You're supposed to forget about it the moment you leave the cinema, so that you're ready to pay for the next one that's out in a week's time. Everything is designed just to get you to turn up, stump up for the tickets, and then not walk out in digust and demand your money back.
Michael Bay delivers. His chief quality and talent is to not screw with the successful formula by trying to introduce any semblance of an original idea or creative vision. He's the perfect blockbuster director because he doesn't have an artistic bone in his body.
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taken from comicbookresources.com
Kevin Eastmen: "I would actually encourage TMNT fans to swallow the 'chill pill' Mr. Bay recently suggested they take, and wait and see what might come out of this seemingly ill-conceived plan,"
Dire 51: FCK THAT! fck that! fck that! fck that!
We should totally petition this impending disaster.
You know who should direct the ninja fckn turtles?
Guillermo del Toro! |
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