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Buffyversefantic
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 Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:07 am Post subject: TEAM WILLIAM - Spike #1 reviews etc |
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Buffyfest will have a very detailed spoilery review up at about 1pm today.I believe the issue is out on Wed.It's listed up at Diamond for Wed. anyway.Also Angel vs. Frankenstein II.
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Buffyfest has read the first issue of the Spike series by Brian Lynch and spoil all in their review.
THIS IS VERY SPOILERISH SO FAIR WARNING!
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http://buffyfest.blogspot.com/2010/10/spike-1-review-spoilers.html
| Quote: | Friday, October 8, 2010
Spike #1 Review (SPOILERS)
The Preamble: I heard a rumor that a few fans have been wanting to see IDW do a Spike comic. Have you heard that? I'm sure someone said it at some point somewhere. These quiet whispers (barely noticeable, really) make me ask: Who is this Spike guy? I mean I thought he was an outer space bounty hunter who used to work for a crime syndicate on Mars but apparently he's actually a vampire of some sort. With cheekbones. Serious cheek bones.
And now he has a comic. By Brian something or other.
The Plot: There's a a slot machine junkie on the prowl in the casinos of Las Vegas and she's about to reach the end of her winning streak. Pull the lever, let's see what comes up.
Wolf. Ram. Heart.
No, seriously, the last one is a heart. Isn't that sweet? Then bugs come pouring out of the machine and devour everyone in the place.
The end.
Too short? Okay.
Let me tell you a little story. Once upon a time, there was a poet named William. He wasn't always appreciated but he tried his best and was a good son to his doting mother. Then the monsters came. Pretty, poetry appreciating monsters who liked to kill everything in sight and then drink it. They sucked the life out of poor little Willy and when they were done, Spike stood in his place. He was a whole new kind of monster, like Billy Idol with fangs. He killed and pillaged and tortured for years and then, one day, he met a girl who changed everything. She was the girl who couldn't be killed. And he loved her. So much, in fact, that he fought for his soul just so that he wouldn't be a monster anymore.
But that's not the end of the story. Oh, no. That's just the beginning. Spike's had so many stories. He's been a ghost, a playboy in a hell moment, a lady, apparently, and one time he twinkled with some spider woman.
That's not our story either. Heck, some of that stuff didn't even really happen. Although, between you and me, I hear Spike pretties up good in makeup and the right dress. Ahem. Anyway. Did someone mention Vegas? Oh, yes. I did. That's where Spike's story continues. But first he needs a little help from his friends.
First up: Beck. She's a sweet, teenage girl who has the power to light things on fire with her mind. She used to be Spike's biggest cheerleader but I hear the girl's picked up some fresh daddy issues since last the two met. I'm sure it'll be fine.
Next: Beta George. he's a big, flying fish who reads thoughts. He also has the ability to make himself look like whatever it is people want to see. That's a handy gift to have when you're a purple fish that floats.
So off they go. A man, the pyromaniac jail bait, and their pal, the big fish. It's a nice motorcycle ride from Los Angeles to Vegas. They missed their chance to see the world's largest ball of twine on the way but, don't worry, in Vegas there's the world's largest ball of Elvis Impersonators.
Like a Demon Katamari all full of hunk upon hunk of burning love, it barrels down the city streets. Some might call that dangerous. Some might call it neat. Spike would probably call it a bit of both but he'll be damned (and he is) if he'll let it keep going. So into the breech once more and at the center of the circle is a face. A big, spooky one, too, with tentacles all around it.
I'll take "This is a trap" for 200, Alex. Well, not so much a trap as a test. Who has come to paint the town red? It's Spike and, apparently, he's in for a world of hurt and maybe a few surprises. But that's not what matters now. That's future Spike's problem. Right now the day needs saving so he plunges his sword into the great big face o' demon and, I'll be damned if the day? Saved. Good on ya, mate.
But the future is bounding forward faster than Spike knows. In an nondescript hotel room a phone rings, letting the man who picks up know that Spike's in town. There's a lady laying next to him, naked and beautiful. He covers her body in kisses and she relishes the attention. It's a fun game for her but, you see, she's not meant for this man. She's meant for Spike. Because she's the one that made him the man he is today.
Drusilla.
She tells the man that Spike will always have her heart and that he wouldn't understand. That's okay, he says. I can do you one better.
That bastard has my soul.
To be continued!
The Review: It's funny reading this hot off the heels of Buffy #37. In that comic it's all about how Buffy and Spike relate to one another. And that is great. But the thing I like best about IDW's Spike is that it's a chance to see him on his own, making his own team, being the master of his own destiny. That's where Brian excels. He knows how to craft a Spike story unencumbered by that pesky question: Who is Buffy's one true love? In this comic, that doesn't matter.
It's issue one and, like you'd expect it reads an awful lot like "Hey, let's get the old band back together". I love Beck and George and seeing them together with Spike on a motorcycle is the kind of reunion that comic nerd dreams are made of. There's a dynamic there. You know they're all like Spike, kind of antagonistic, always wanting the final word, and just a bit chaotic neutral, so to speak. But you know they'll stand behind Spike, do what he says.
A giant ball full of Elvises is a sure sign you're reading a Brian Lynch book. That man knows how to bring the quirky comedy. Brian's Spike is lord of the snarky quip and the world he surveys is not short on things to point and laugh at. There's always that comedic undertone in Brian's writing, that clever turn that makes you laugh when you least expect to.
And there's Drusilla. I'm one of those fans who, for years, kept saying "Where the hell is she?" and now I finally get my answer. Some might say Drusilla and Spike, there's no story left to tell there. But Spike's got a soul now and who knows what Dru's been up to so I beg to differ. It's been a long time coming.
In the comic biz there always needs to be a hook in that last panel, something that will make the kids come back for more and that final line made me jump out of my seat. Spike has someone else's soul? What does that even mean? I have no idea but it made me excited. And that's what good comic writing does. It makes you excited enough that one month's wait feels like an eternity.
Just one final note: let's all give a little love to the return of Franco Urru, whose art has become synonymous with Brian's Angelverse books. He has an ability like no other to capture these characters and provide the perfect complement to Brian's words. It's not just Spike who got the old band back together, Brian did, too. With Brian, Franco, and, now, Mariah, we've got a creative team that can't be beat.
If you love Spike, this isn't even a question. Pick it up or face the certainty that I will be shaking my head in disappointment at you. You don't want that, do you? I didn't think so. Spike #1 hits stands everywhere next Wednesday, the 13th of September.
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Double Dutchess
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| Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:01 am Post subject: |
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Couldn't resist the spoilers, and this sounds and looks GREAT! Spirits definitely up again!
Great review, and I competely agree: what could be better than Spike, Beck and George together on a motor cycle (drawn by Franco Urru)? The soul thing is fascinating -- I always assumed Spike got his *own* soul back. Or that it was a brand new soul.
Makes me wonder whose soul Angel has. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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| fender_love wrote: | | Betta George makes himself a pretty hot guy. |
Looks like he was inspired by Groo  |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Well that's a twist considering in the Climax of season 6 of Buffy the thing said "We give you back Your soul." |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like it's going to be amazing!
I love Groo, and I even love that ridiculous talking fish! Bravo! |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Rodimal wrote: | | Well that's a twist considering in the Climax of season 6 of Buffy the thing said "We give you back Your soul." |
The truth is absolutely not as simple as Spike having that guy's soul. Spike has his own soul. But there are strings.... |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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| I will be picking this up day 1. You can't beat the duo of Lynch and Urru. It's like PB & J. I hate that I couldn't attend NYCC, what with me being "between jobs" and all. Luckily I have just a few $ to get Angel #38 and Spike #1. As for the soul bit, Angel was ensouled by Gypsies. Not exactly the most innocent of people (then again nobody is) but they did the job properly when restoring Angel's soul. Spike on the otherhand, was ensouled by some type of demon. I mean come on, we can all trust demons......right? |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 2:59 am Post subject: |
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Must not read spoilers
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only a few days to go til this is out so I'm not going to read this.I was a spoilerwhore back when the shows were on the air,but with only 22 pages a month I try to be good nowadays:-)
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| Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 4:39 am Post subject: |
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| It's good to see Spike with Beck and George ! Roll on Thursday ! |
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Wow! Urru's dynamic is incredible! Just like I watch a real movie! 
Beta George is sweet  Love how he's flirting with these girls! 
About Spike having someone else soul... I think it makes scene. When the human turns to a vampire his/her soul is permanently destroyed. So it's logical the souls what Spike and Angel have got now to not being their original souls. The ensouled vampire Angel is very different person than the human Liam. Liam was wastrel, drunk and ladies man. Angel is nothing like him. He has got Liam's memories only (as he has got Angelus's memories), but I doubt that Angel has Liam's soul and Liam's spiritual make-up. If Angel has Liam's soul he wouldn't be a hero who helps to the helpless and wouldn't be a champion.
About Spike I've read somewhere (I'm not sure I think it was an interview with Joss or another Buffy's writer) that William's soul hasn't been permanently destroyed, a part of it still stayed into the vampire Spike, so he was able to love, even without a soul. And when Spike got his soul back he didn't turn into William again - the sensitive, shy and naive mama's boy. Actually Spike barely changed - he is the same Spike + the same little part of William in him. Well, the souled Spike has got more conscience now and the soul is keeping down his demon's instincts, but his character is almost the same and that's good - he's not broody.
So if somewhere exist some "soul-bank" or a soul warehouse it probably contains the souls of the people who sold their own souls (as the Mayor did) for some reasons. The people usually sell their souls to the demons, and probably the demons are the keepers or owners of that "soul-bank".
And that makes the gypsies, who cursed Angel with a soul, a kind of bank-robbers! Well, the gypsies are pretty good in the thefts
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| Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2010 9:23 am Post subject: |
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| Veiriti wrote: | | When the human turns to a vampire his/her soul is permanently destroyed. |
Are you sure of this? Has this been said anywhere on BtVS or AtS, or is it just your assumption? Anyway, it can't be true because in his post above, Brian confirmed that Spike did get his own soul back. So it wasn't destroyed.
But your "soul bank" idea isn't such a bad one. If people's souls don't get destroyed when they are turned into a vampire, where do they go? Maybe there's some demon who collects them. I would say The Devil / Satan, since that's the one who's typically interested in people's souls, but I'm not sure if Satan actually exists in the Buffyverse. We had Izzy the Black Thorn member, but he was killed by Illyria in Not Fade Away, and there was this devil chasing Spike in Shadow Puppets. So there's definitely more than one devil around. Anyway, my current theory is that this guy claiming that Spike has his soul (as in: a soul he used to own) is a, or possibly even THE, devil.
PS: About Angel's soul: I always assumed that he also got his own soul back and that the difference in personality between Angel and Liam is simply because, well, people change. After a few hundred years of being a vampire, plus a hundred years of being a vampire with a soul, one can hardly expect Angel to be exactly the same person as he was before he was turned. |
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Veiriti
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| Quote: | | Are you sure of this? Has this been said anywhere on BtVS or AtS, or is it just your assumption? |
Giles mentioned about that on season 1, but I don't remember the quote well. He said that the soul of the persons turned in vampires permanently is destroyed or gone. I can't remember maybe he said "gone" but maybe there is a chance the soul to returns to it's owner.
| Quote: | | Anyway, my current theory is that this guy claiming that Spike has his soul (as in: a soul he used to own) is a, or possibly even THE, devil. |
Well, you have a point - maybe that man is something like a soul-collector devil or demon who had William/Spike soul in his collection before Spike to gain it again.
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Reactions?
Pretty much every emoticon across the board. Really, really good.
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