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JazZeke
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. Now THIS is a Transformers comic. I think we have our new "IDW dream team." Kup remains my reigning favorite, but Jazz comes in a close second. It's a well thought-out, upbeat story that completely captures the spirit of the characters, and a much-needed breath of fresh air in the middle of the drudgery in "All Hail Drift."

Most Spotlights generally tie-in to the larger main arc in some way, serving merely as enhancer for a series. Jazz has managed to keep completely self-contained yet retain its relevance to the grander scheme of things.

You know, as much as I love EJ Su's art, I don't think this was some of his best work. I think it was the fact that he had to make the bots look injured and banged up, and his artwork looks most keen when the bots are shiney and new and the detailing is at its cleanest. The coloring was great through and through, and I just loved the way she did everyone's eyes and their swords. I think her glowing eyes are the best out of IDW's great lineup of colorists.

However, the hand-to-hand combat was totally freaking awesome. This definitely has a place in the top ten list of greatest Transformers fights of all time. The helicopter bit was admittedly a bit on the deus-ex-machina side, but a necessary component. As good as Jazz is, there's no way he rightfully should be able to defeat all five Predacons and I liked the fact that the comic retained its realism that way, instead of making the focus character magically badass just to sell people on him (*coughdriftcough*)

And I loved the new element introduced to Jazz's character, his firm belief in the Autobot cause and his belief in himself as merely one soldier out of many. That is an angle of him I would love to see explored more. It somehow makes him larger than life and yet brings him down to earth (so to speak) at the same time. he's the ideal hero everyone can look up to, yet not above us.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ExceedinglySphericalDino wrote:
Galileo wrote:
Just bouncing off comments as usual.

By the way, I haven't seen any of these sites with the negative reviews. Where it be happening?


Hit up the AllSpark dude, it's almost entirely neg in there. I was quite surprised at it myself, although some of them do have points that I didn't think of before. I was just happy to see an upbeat story after the grind (in more ways than one) that AHM has been.


Hello there.

My handle on the Allspark is Reload.

Although the first few posts are definately quite anti-SL Jazz, the general consensus in that thread appears to be that the Spotlight was good, but it did have it's flaws.

Personally, I would've preferred a darker, grittier black ops story considering what Kup was alluding to Jazz in that one issue of AHM. I also felt it was a little cheesy in some parts.

BUT

I enjoyed it nonetheless, and as a fellow fan, I'm proud of Josh van Reyk and Shaun Knowler finally being able to write an official story. It was certaintly an impressive first outing, I just wanted to give some constructive criticism you know?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cliffjumper wrote:
ExceedinglySphericalDino wrote:
Galileo wrote:
Just bouncing off comments as usual.

By the way, I haven't seen any of these sites with the negative reviews. Where it be happening?


Hit up the AllSpark dude, it's almost entirely neg in there. I was quite surprised at it myself, although some of them do have points that I didn't think of before. I was just happy to see an upbeat story after the grind (in more ways than one) that AHM has been.


Hello there.

My handle on the Allspark is Reload.

Although the first few posts are definately quite anti-SL Jazz, the general consensus in that thread appears to be that the Spotlight was good, but it did have it's flaws.

Personally, I would've preferred a darker, grittier black ops story considering what Kup was alluding to Jazz in that one issue of AHM. I also felt it was a little cheesy in some parts.

BUT

I enjoyed it nonetheless, and as a fellow fan, I'm proud of Josh van Reyk and Shaun Knowler finally being able to write an official story. It was certaintly an impressive first outing, I just wanted to give some constructive criticism you know?

While I wouldn't have minded seeing a "black ops" story too, I think one of the reasons why this story was produced was to act as a positive story, to help the audience feel lightened up a little after the the overall dour mood we've been getting (or at least the author has been trying pathetically to portray) in All Hail Megatron.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JazZeke wrote:
While I wouldn't have minded seeing a "black ops" story too, I think one of the reasons why this story was produced was to act as a positive story, to help the audience feel lightened up a little after the the overall dour mood we've been getting (or at least the author has been trying pathetically to portray) in All Hail Megatron.


I think they just wanted to tell a fun, feel-good story that was well written. There need be no other reason than that.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, Reload! Welcome, bro! It's Ataru! I think you'll find there are other AHM appreciators here, and we can get some balanced dialogue going on this board.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cliffjumper wrote:
I enjoyed it nonetheless, and as a fellow fan, I'm proud of Josh van Reyk and Shaun Knowler finally being able to write an official story. It was certaintly an impressive first outing, I just wanted to give some constructive criticism you know?

Always appreciated! Welcome to the boards, too.

And yeah, the black ops option was on the table, but we ultimately chose to go with something a bit more uplifting. Transformers as a whole has a bunch of dark and gritty anti-hero types and/or uber-cocky ultra-rebels at this point (which is all part of the flavor, don't get me wrong), but we wanted something a little different for Jazz.

We decided to do something without the general cynicism and endless introspective dialog showing the character suffers from angst or turmoil due to this or that (not that such a thing is necessarily always bad).

In the end, we stayed out of his head and went with something simple and fun. We decided we wanted Jazz to be as admirable coming out of the book as he was going in, if not more so. The result was deemed "cheesy" by some, but I have no regrets about that.

The vast majority of feedback seems to say peeps were on board with what we were doing, which is great to see too. I'm also really glad people have responded mostly constructively even if they didn't like it.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Cliffjumper wrote:
I enjoyed it nonetheless, and as a fellow fan, I'm proud of Josh van Reyk and Shaun Knowler finally being able to write an official story. It was certaintly an impressive first outing, I just wanted to give some constructive criticism you know?

Always appreciated! Welcome to the boards, too.

And yeah, the black ops option was on the table, but we ultimately chose to go with something a bit more uplifting. Transformers as a whole has a bunch of dark and gritty anti-hero types and/or uber-cocky ultra-rebels at this point (which is all part of the flavor, don't get me wrong), but we wanted something a little different for Jazz.

We decided to do something without the general cynicism and endless introspective dialog showing the character suffers from angst or turmoil due to this or that (not that such a thing is necessarily always bad).

In the end, we stayed out of his head and went with something simple and fun. We decided we wanted Jazz to be as admirable coming out of the book as he was going in, if not more so. The result was deemed "cheesy" by some, but I have no regrets about that.

The vast majority of feedback seems to say peeps were on board with what we were doing, which is great to see too. I'm also really glad people have responded mostly constructively even if they didn't like it.

I knew it! I thought having someone else tell the story was a great idea too, it really showed how Jazz is someone to look up to (even if he didn't know who it was) without falling into hero worship. I didn't think it was cheesy at all.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beachcomber wrote:
Cliffjumper wrote:
I enjoyed it nonetheless, and as a fellow fan, I'm proud of Josh van Reyk and Shaun Knowler finally being able to write an official story. It was certaintly an impressive first outing, I just wanted to give some constructive criticism you know?

Always appreciated! Welcome to the boards, too.

And yeah, the black ops option was on the table, but we ultimately chose to go with something a bit more uplifting. Transformers as a whole has a bunch of dark and gritty anti-hero types and/or uber-cocky ultra-rebels at this point (which is all part of the flavor, don't get me wrong), but we wanted something a little different for Jazz.

We decided to do something without the general cynicism and endless introspective dialog showing the character suffers from angst or turmoil due to this or that (not that such a thing is necessarily always bad).

In the end, we stayed out of his head and went with something simple and fun. We decided we wanted Jazz to be as admirable coming out of the book as he was going in, if not more so. The result was deemed "cheesy" by some, but I have no regrets about that.

The vast majority of feedback seems to say peeps were on board with what we were doing, which is great to see too. I'm also really glad people have responded mostly constructively even if they didn't like it.


Thanks for explaining the thinking behind your creative decisions.

Makes sense Smile

Hey Ataru! I was wondering where you'd been lately lol. Things have been kinda incredibly one sided on the Allspark bout AHM for a lil while now, and I just can't be bothered to eloquently argue my point like you used to, to people who aren't gonna listen Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I like this board a lot. I don't have as much time for Internetting as I used to, anyhow, so I tend to drop by the Allspark for news, and then come here to discuss stuff.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, very late here, but I've only just read SL Jazz. I just wanted to contribute my thoughts (I'm afraid I haven't got the time atm to go through all the pages of this thread, so I'm probably going to be repeating a bunch of stuff already said.)

I loved it. It was very heartwarming, and I noticed when I had just finished reading it that I had a smile on my face. I really felt all warm and fuzzy inside! Kittens and bunnies and stuff. I really enjoyed Jazz's portrayal, a complete optimist, positive attitude in a pretty much screwed situation, yet with a wild and daring side. And the hand to hand combat was great! Jazz and Razorclaw exchanging super punches was awesome, you could almost feel them, Jazz's blocking and use of his arm guard was nice, and I loved the head smash :3 I do love a good robo-fight.
I like that First Aid was squeezed in there too, I'd like to see more of him, always found him interesting.
And you know what part I really liked towards the end? When Ironhide told Tracks, "Yeah, kid. He gave me a message for you. He said to tell you that he was just an Autobot...just like you are." I really think that said a lot about Jazz's character, simple but effective. He has respect for everyone, he doesn't get all high and mighty despite his skills and position, and he's just an all around genuine, great bot. Thems be my thoughts Cool

Also, whilst reading this, I kept thinking 'Razorclaw needs a SL dammit.'
Also also: Am I the only one that for some reason finds the panel on page 7 of Tracks shouting 'You ARE crazy!' unintentionally amusing?? It's the dialogue with his face and the background....I'm probably the only one...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Metal_gear_Eva wrote:

Also also: Am I the only one that for some reason finds the panel on page 7 of Tracks shouting 'You ARE crazy!' unintentionally amusing?? It's the dialogue with his face and the background....I'm probably the only one...

Nothing unintentional about it Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Also, whilst reading this, I kept thinking 'Razorclaw needs a SL dammit.'


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richter wrote:
Metal_gear_Eva wrote:

Also also: Am I the only one that for some reason finds the panel on page 7 of Tracks shouting 'You ARE crazy!' unintentionally amusing?? It's the dialogue with his face and the background....I'm probably the only one...

Nothing unintentional about it Wink

Haha, nice, I really dig little things like that Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If this is the closest thing to a Tracks Spotlight that we’ll ever get, then I'll take it.

It's been a while since I've picked up a single issue rather than trades and this was a fun read.

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PostPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, there's something I've been wondering about; as far as I can tell, Tracks' robot design in this issue is the same as Guido's design for him in AHM. Does this mean that Tracks still has a Cybertronian mode in the present day, or that his bot mode simply looks virtually identical regardless of what form he's taken? (i.e. "Beauty is timeless" Cool )
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