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pandr10 Red Shirt
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:01 pm Post subject: star trek ongoing |
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| any plans for a Star Trek ongoing? |
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Duo Maxwell Transforumer
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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I wouldn't hold my breath for an ongoing as IDW doesn't, as a rule, produce ongoing series. The best we can hope for is an increase in the amount of minis we receive, but then it's a mixed bag as it might be the original crew, the Next Generation crew, New Frontier or Gary Seven. In my case, the two former possibilities are perfect for me, while the latter two hold no interest. _________________ The preceding post is OK to print. |
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pandr10 Red Shirt
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Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| That's too bad. All these disjointed minis lsck cohesion and it makes it harder to follow. Gi Joe is working well as an ongoing, the Star Wars model over at Dark Horse would work too I think. Countdown is awesome, I hope they take the ball after the movie and really run with it. |
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Liebkraft Forum Zombie

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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:24 am Post subject: |
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In my point of view IDW is doing the right thing by producing minis instead of ongoings. While I have to completely agree with you that one could do much bigger stories in ongoings, I think that it were those ongoings that kind of broke the necks of the ST-Comics of Marvel, DC and Malibu, just think of the never-finished story from Early Voyages _________________ 'Play with friends, be a Hero!'
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Duo Maxwell Transforumer
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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:51 am Post subject: |
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I would agree that, at this point, minis seem to be the best way to go for the Star Trek comics, but I also degree that what we are getting is very disjointed (TNG: The Space Between, very much so) and don't really have an overall arc in which to connect anything. _________________ The preceding post is OK to print. |
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Beachcomber Transforumer

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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Would say the overall arcs are the series the books are based on. Most of em are easy enough to place in the timeline aren't they? |
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Duo Maxwell Transforumer
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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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Perhaps, but they bounce all over the place. I'm guessing Year Four and Enterprise Experiment could be consecutive but Mirror Images, while being entirely a Mirror Universe story, looks like it takes place prior to the start of Star Trek proper, whereas Blood Will Tell is like The Space Between where it bounces around in time with each issue.
Unlike Transformers (for the most part) we don't have Star Trek producing minis which lead into the next and form a cohesive comic story instead of "we'll do a Star Trek title which takes place about here, a Next Generation title which fits in around here and maybe another Gary Seven title."
There's nothing wrong with that, of course, but I actually though the comics were good in their own right when they told their own story (Mirror Images is a good example of this from the IDW offerings) instead of trying to be "printed episodes" of their respective series. _________________ The preceding post is OK to print. |
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pandr10 Red Shirt
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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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| I enjoy the minis, don't get me wrong, and for idw to get John Byrne on board is awesome bye the way. It would just be cool if there was an ongoing series for the minis to play off. When the movie hits people are going to be looking for a trek comic to follow up what they've seen on the big screen. I'm down either way, really. |
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Samy I'm kind of a big deal
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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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I concur that the minis bounce all over the place and seem disjointed.
You just don't get the feeling that a subplot is raised in one mini and followed up on in another. There seems to be no overall plan. Just a bunch of minis all disconnected from each other. Not a universe. Just several separate microcosms.
An ongoing isn't necessary to fix that though. Minis can still be made to have an overall arc without resorting to an ongoing. When you start an ongoing, it's only going to start the countdown clock to cancellation. |
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DanielW Transforumer

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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:13 am Post subject: |
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Nah, IMO a focus on an on-going runs the risk of reducing the quality of "minis".
Another New Frontier story would be great.
Maybe Titan? Or a "new series" set in the universe (I've an idea FWIW, an outgrowth of Voyager, using some of the core ideas and turning them on it's head). _________________ Ohh 'Eck! |
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Ro-Dan Transforumer

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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:05 am Post subject: |
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| DanielW wrote: | | Nah, IMO a focus on an on-going runs the risk of reducing the quality of "minis". | Agreed. In the mini-series format the creative team can give it their all and tell a finite story with a beginning, middle, and end. _________________
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Oracle1984 Transforumer

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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:47 am Post subject: |
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| Ro-Dan wrote: | | DanielW wrote: | | Nah, IMO a focus on an on-going runs the risk of reducing the quality of "minis". | Agreed. In the mini-series format the creative team can give it their all and tell a finite story with a beginning, middle, and end. |
Its also generally easier for the reader to know where the story "fits," as opposed to jumping around within an ongoing. _________________ September 17, 1984. MTME Part I. The world changed forever.
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Liebkraft Forum Zombie

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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:03 am Post subject: |
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I'd say it would be nice to have some minis set after one another and for example with the same crew, maybe TNF, like ongoing novels, but separated enough that one can start to read anywhere.
For an ongoing I'd rather suggest an completely new ST-Series, like TNF is only in books, this one could only be in an ongoin from IDW. _________________ 'Play with friends, be a Hero!'
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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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For an ongoing I'd rather suggest an completely new ST-Series, like TNF is only in books, this one could only be in an ongoin from IDW.[/quote]
I agree. IDW should experiment with their own ongoing with all-new characters, like pocket books did with Vanguard. |
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Ro-Dan Transforumer

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Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Duo Maxwell wrote: | | Unlike Transformers (for the most part) we don't have Star Trek producing minis which lead into the next and form a cohesive comic story instead of "we'll do a Star Trek title which takes place about here, a Next Generation title which fits in around here and maybe another Gary Seven title." | And it's that concept that I enjoy most. You don't have to invest yourself in long Star Trek comic book history to enjoy any mini series you choose to read. They're all largely self-contained and stand (or fail) on their own merits. _________________
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