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Victory Saber · Slayer Joined: 29 Mar 2007 Posts: 90

In issue 1, page 20, the flashback to the original battle between Autobots,Decepticons and Thunderwing:

Optimus Prime says: " As if bent on one last, selfless act of sacrifice, it took our sin... and swallowed it whole."

According to the reviews in TFW2005.com:
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/showthread.php?t=103319

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ignus · Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 10:47 am Post subject:

You have to read the previous sentence to get the whole meaning.

"But even then it was not the creature that yielded but Cybertron itself! As if bent on one last, selfless act of sacrifice, it took our sin... and swallowed it whole."

Thunderwing is their sin and Cybertron sacrificed itself.
Basically, they couldn't hurt Thunderwing but all their firepower was successful in burying him inside Thunderhead Pass.

Bludgeon · Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 10:52 am Post subject:

Makes sense, and explains why Megatron said that Primes talk mystical nonsense Smile

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ignus · Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 10:57 am Post subject:

Which is one reason I didn't care much for Optimus Prime in Stormbringer. I find him much more interesting in Escalation where he behaves like a military commander, hasn't read #5 yet though.

World Prime · Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:08 am Post subject:

The planet collapsed to bury Thunderwing as a sacrifice for the TFs.
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Limabean · Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 12:11 pm Post subject:

i like both versions, just shows how fleshed out he is, i will admit though to prefereing the cybertronian look to his eath form
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Victory Saber · Slayer Joined: 29 Mar 2007 Posts: 90

In Issue 2, page 2. During the dialogue between Bludgeon and Jetfire, Bludgeon mentioned " We visited this apocalypse on ourselves. We took something magnificent and turned it into a wasterland!"

So what is the exact meaning of "something magnificent". Does it mean the body of Thunderwing which was retrieved by Bludgeon in Thunderpass? Or it means the resources of Cybertron and Cybertron was turned into a wasterland by all Transformers.
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Richter · Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:16 pm Post subject:

I'm guessing the "Something Magnificant" was Cybertron, I got the impression that Bludgeon and Co. were trying to restore to it's former glory, in their own wierd way.
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